Blow Off Valve!!!!

[Happy]

I know there has been plenty of discusssion aboutt his,and yes i used the search button as well!! I got a 91 laser turbo 5 speed and i got a hks ss bov and i seen i na post where some guy left his factory bypass valve on and put a hks ss up in front of it, after bypass and before the intake!! I want a know how this works and if any one else has it done and if they have any trouble with it??
It really should work me and my roomate were saying because you can adjust the hks to stay closed at idle and just open up at higher boost right?? And at idle you by pass is putttin the air abck in so nothing is getting frigged up right?? Can someone else right something to me and explain it just a little bit better please??? And i really want a do this and i really cant see why it wont work??? thanks guys and sorry for the long post!!!!

 

[autronicDSM]

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[TSi95AWD]

:laugh: I love that pic. And this is honestly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Don't bother.

 

[Megaman]

 

[Happy]

What is so ####ing bad about this idea??? i just did it and it works fine And now three other people in 1 day has copied of me and did the same and we are all having no problems with the cars at all so WHERES THE BAD IDEA NOW???????????????? Anyone looking for a better bov noise it works with no difference in performance at all And if u want a go back to stock for at the track it takes a whole 5 mins to change while im under the hood adjusting the fpr anyways!!!!!!

 

[boostineklipz]

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[Defiant]

You should snug-up your hinges while you're under there. Yours seem to be getting quite loose.

None of us have any idea what in tarnation you're talking about.

 

[ZenkaiRacerDsM]

I think your saying you have 2 bov's right? The stock one and the hks? If so you wouldnt be able to boost any higher then 12 psi since the stocker cant hold past that which defeats the purpose of getting a new bov. Still not sure what you were talkin about.

 

[FourG63 97GST]

yea, think he has 2 bovs

poor knoob, probably dont even know he wasted his money

 

[Tallen]

Originally posted by Happy
Anyone looking for a better bov noise it works with no difference in performance at all

haha...so how do you know this. the magic butt dyno? if your HKS is venting to the atmosphere, which i assume it is b/c they are QUIET when vented, then you ARE STI:L LOSING METERED AIR WHICH WILL HINDER YOUR PERFORMANCE. read that 3 more times. when you shift...the BOV releases meterd air...this in turn causes the car to run PIG RICH, which in turn causes fouled plugs, and shitty gas mileage. the stock BOV is not some magic portal...when air goes thru it, it is still metered. thats why its dumped BEHIND the MAS. think about it....then realize your wrong.

 

[echo]

i was curious about this too, but not for the reason of noises. i saw in a magazine (can't remember which one), a car who had 2 greddy type-s bovs (recirculated) on the same uicp. the car was single turbo. i was just wondering what the benefits of something like that would be. i remeber the car was making pretty good power, but i couldn't understand why he/she would do something like that.

 

[Defiant]

The main advantage is that it makes twice the money for Greddy.

Once the first BOV opens, there's not going to be a reason for a second one to open.

 

[Happy]

Works great boys!! And quiet what the #### are u talking about TALLEN?????? And FourG63 97GST Wasting my money i dont think so its not a year old and i only paid 100 Canadian !! And i did it to a toyota supra tonight was he ever inpressed with it!! You get ur sound and u get ur car running the same!! So i dont know where u guys get off saying it wont work?? It does and why wouldnt it??????????????

 

[alex99gst]

ok dude you just waste your money and also while you are at it buy 3 exhausts and install all of them on the same car. buy 2 intercoolers one can be a fmic and the other can go on top of your car.

 

[madmax]

Since know one knows what the hell your talking about, and it takes the reading comprehension of a Venutian to understand what your talking about. How about you post some PICS.

 

[TurboTerror]

First off. The HKS BOV stays closed at idle no matter what. Second, you are a ####ing moron!! Putting two valves on the car will do nothing as far as performance. If you have the HKS between the stock valve and the TB then that is the only one that will open. Like I said, you are a stupid ass moron noob who just wasted your money. I have nightmares about the stupid stuff idiots like you do to screw up your cars.

IMO you should get rid of your DSM and get a honda. We all know there are A LOT of ####ed up hondas running around, so you would blend in with all of them just fine.

 

[DSMJim]

You say you know it runs fine. Ok thats great. Please post the dyno or datalog that proves it. Your an idiot to say its fine and have NO idea what your talking about. Because the car seems to drive normally and you hear your pretty little sound doens't mean its working properly.

Please post your proof. If you have none as I suspect then you prove that you really have no idea and just ASSUME its ok because the car runs the same as it did before.

Second of all. as TurboTerror just said. If you put on 2 valves, the air will not go through both. It will travel to the path of least resistance which is the closest BOV, being the HKS so all your air is going to go out the HKS anyways not both BOV's. As soon as you let off the throttle the HKS is going to open robbing all the air from the system and letting it out into the atmosphere, your stock BOV is now not even opening. You have basically installed a new BOV and left in a NON working one on your intercooler pipe.

Thanks for your interesting post however your an Idiot.

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[Happy]

Ok boys!!! You must have ur exaust running back into your cars!! Because its not to hard to understand whats goin on here!! I only want one to work that being the hks because of the sound and the quality only keeping the stock one hooked up to clear up any low idle stumbles and to keep it idiling with no surge. Now does that not make sense to you guys??? So u better roll ur windows down and let some of them fumes out of ur cars!!! I didnt come on here to fight i came on here to get some opinons!!!! Soon as i can borrow a digital camera i will have some pics up!! Hows that sound for inline mufflers!!!

 

[DSMJim]

Originally posted by Happy
Ok boys!!! You must have ur exaust running back into your cars!! Because its not to hard to understand whats goin on here!! I only want one to work that being the hks because of the sound and the quality only keeping the stock one hooked up to clear up any low idle stumbles and to keep it idiling with no surge. Now does that not make sense to you guys??? So u better roll ur windows down and let some of them fumes out of ur cars!!! I didnt come on here to fight i came on here to get some opinons!!!! Soon as i can borrow a digital camera i will have some pics up!! Hows that sound for inline mufflers!!!

From my last post:

"It will travel to the path of least resistance which is the closest BOV, being the HKS so all your air is going to go out the HKS anyways not both BOV's. As soon as you let off the throttle the HKS is going to open robbing all the air from the system and letting it out into the atmosphere, your stock BOV is now not even opening. You have basically installed a new BOV and left in a NON working one on your intercooler pipe. "

Your not clearing up any surge or idleing problems what so ever. THe only reason you think you are is because your using an HKS BOV which doesn't leak at idle not because you have figured out anything magical.

 

[ChicagoGSX]

DSM Jim you are mostly right. At idle the air will escape through the HKS if it is leaking at idle, because like you said it will follow the path of least resistance (out of the BOV instead of into the cylinder). However, there is a benefit to running 2 BOVs and that is if you are running a lot of boost and one BOV cannot vent all the air. A lot of high HP turbocharged cars will run two BOVs because they aren't able to vent all the air out of one.

Happy - you are truly a moron. You have absolutely no idea how a BOV or the DSM MAS system works. There is a reason everyone but you has posted that your idea is stupid, because it is. If the HKS is leaking at idle w/o the stock BOV, then it is STILL LEAKING WITH TWO, THREE, OR ONE HUNDRED BOVs. Just because you and your retarded roommate have thought up some crazy ass scheme as to why it works, DOES NOT MAKE IT WORK. If you are running enough boost to cause your stock 1g BOV to leak, then even with the addition of the HKS its still going to leak at the exact same boost pressure. In fact you are only getting 50% of the noise from your HKS because 50% of the air is going out of the stock BOV when you vent. The only thing you have done right in doing this is that some of the air that is vented by the BOVs is returned to the intake tract.

 

[DSM Stang-Eater]

Damn sumone got served up!................serves him right for bein so dumb

 

[Batty200]

I still disagree about this whole running rich argument. Anytime you close the throttle plate the injectors still injected all the fuel that was mettered into the engine. Now since the fuel for the air that is still recirculating in the intake tract is already out the exhaust when you reopen the throttle how does that keep you from runing rich? If anything it would seem to make you run LEAN. When you first open the throttle all this previously metered air that the fuel that was supposed to use it to burn has long since been pumped through the exhaust. You now have tooo much air in the engine.

As far as I can see the ONLY down side to venting is poor idle performance from a leak allowing unmetered air to enter the intake tract. If it doesnt leak under light loads or idle I see no problem

Later

 

[TurboTerror]

Even with all of these posts trying to get this happy guy to open his eyes to the truth, he is still an idiot.

 

[Happy]

Thanks guys u guys are all so nice i can see now why everyone around here is goin to dsm.org anyway it works so #### ya all and i aint no idiot!! And if i am idiot would i be running 12.3 on a stock turbo!! Hows that for you!!! See it pays to try new things!!

 

[autronicDSM]

You should install Greddy Type-R BOV as your 3rd BOV and maybe you'll run 11s...