buschur cold air *awesome*

[jdmawd]

Just got my buschur cold air system today,the 2600 came to this thing is bad ass the polishing and bends are godly. Not a nick or scratch on it. My question is since it puts the filter so close to the ground what filter would you use. the normal conical or the front sucking on in the PIC?

 

[IPT]

Becareful not to go through deep water puddles you might suck some water into your engine. I would hate to have that happen.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by IPT
Becareful not to go through deep water puddles you might suck some water into your engine. I would hate to have that happen.

i agree i don't intend on driving it in bad weather. however its very possible to come out of a move and *bam* monsoon. i envisioned disconnecting the whole system and just sucking under hood air in the even of a rain storm. one hose clamp and its off

 

[IPT]

What about on of those AEM bypass valves??

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by IPT
What about on of those AEM bypass valves??

that's a really good idea, but i don't see where it would fit. it would have to go either right at the turbo or right at the filter. unless i cut the intake in half. which i really don't want to do, this thing is gorgeous the PIC does not do it justice

 

[IPT]

I dont see why you couldn't put it right next to the inlet to the turbo, unless the heat might be too much for the foam filter that is around the bypass valve.

 

[FIRESTARTER]

Hoew much do you pay for the cold air filter kit?

 

[larryd]

FYI the AEM bypass valve wont work.. it has to hav a certain length of straight piping horizontally to the throttle body or something of that sort.. call AEM and ask em for a more tech response if you want, I just know cuz I sell Injen intakes and even though thy bypass would fit on it, it wont work on it

 

[InferiorWang]

i think with the aem bypass you would have to cut the aem intake if you had one. cant remember for sure tho

 

[larryd]

this is from AEMs website

"The valve installs along the upper portion of the inlet pipe on the same axis as the throttle body centerline. Should a drop in pressure occur within the pipe due to filter submersion, the valve shuts down induction at the filter and routes incoming air through its external orifices, eliminating any chance of water ingestion. "

since we cant install it on the same axis as the TB it wouldnt work.. infact the only car it really works on is Honda/Acura

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by FIRESTARTER
Hoew much do you pay for the cold air filter kit?

$220 with the k/n from buschur

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Does it only work on 1G's?

Later,

 

[fast_talon]

JDMAWD, let usknow how you make out after its installed. I would like to see the diff in air temp logged eith this setup.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by fast_talon
JDMAWD, let usknow how you make out after its installed. I would like to see the diff in air temp logged eith this setup.

absolutely, i have an intake temp gauge in the car i will post complete tuning logs once installed. im very curious about what my timing advance and knock sum's look like with intake/charged air temps much lower then normal. everything is scheduled to be installed next week, after that its straight to the dyno for a wide band tune

MuttedTSiAWD:

IM not sure it seems like buschur or anyone else could bend one for a 2g. for this particular piece, you need a vpc and a FMIC to make it work.

 

[BryanK]

Larryd.... how much do you charge for the injen intakes? Is it even possible to modify the injen to accompany a K&N Filter (should the filter it comes with go bad)?
Thanks,
Bryan

 

[larryd]

the filter it comes with is actually just as good as a K&N filter.. we've swapped them out before on dynos to see and the same power is made..

my price depends on which one.. like if it comes with filter or not, if its colored or not..

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Originally posted by jdmawd

MuttedTSiAWD:

IM not sure it seems like buschur or anyone else could bend one for a 2g. for this particular piece, you need a vpc and a FMIC to make it work.

I forgot about the VPC part. Maybe I'll call around and see if I can't get one made if your logs show a real difference.

Later,

 

[RocketDSM]

Last time I checked the VPC was illegal for us smog controlled people. Any change in this or is it still taboo for us poor Cali boys?

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by RocketDSM
Last time I checked the VPC was illegal for us smog controlled people. Any change in this or is it still taboo for us poor Cali boys?

there is a chip that is calibrated for California smog regulations. if you ever get a vpc and need that stock California smog compliant chip shoot me a e-mail

MuttedTSiAWD:

It seems very easy to have a tube bent to fit a 2g, and just extend the cable from the mass air to reach the new location. IM not sure my logs will show very clear, and conclusive evidence that cold air makes a difference because my intake temp gauge is plumbed post turbo, and intercooler. the logged intake temps are red from the mass air sensor, which is pre turbo and intercooler. however knock sums, and timing advance should show major temp related differences. i was initially, going to make 2 logs. one with an under hood intake setup, and then compare it against a cold air setup. with on other changes than filter location. needless to say, i changed my mind. i am very curious about a lot of thing in my setup. i promise i will post dyno sheets, and logs from my initial tune ill keep you guys posted. normal rwhp, for setups similar to mine have been posted around 296-300 rwhp on pump. that seems very very low,i don't want to guess at this point.

 

[RocketDSM]

So let me see if I understand this all....I can swap in a VPC (legally?) AND use the Buschur Cold Air Intake? Sweet, thanks. I will have to start saving my money again (just bought a full set of AEM brakes, stockers dies about three days ago)

 

[NDgsx]

Originally posted by jdmawd

one with an under hood intake setup, and then compare it against a cold air setup. with on other changes than filter location. needless to say, i changed my mind.

What haven't you seen the HKS vpc intake adaptor? It's pimp as hell. Quite possibly the ugliest and worst functioning part I have ever seen HKS make. Can't beat the green filter that gets sucked into the turbo either!

 

[GRNDSM]

Rocket,

As great as VPCs are on 1Gs, it just does not seem to work as well on 2G's. BR's pipe only fits the 1Gs.

As for air by-pass valve, I do not see where you could fit on this particular pipe. You just have to take it easy with it and not go through any deep sanding water.

I have been using my for 3 years now with out any problems.

 

[BryanK]

larryd, I'd be wanting the polished pipe (didn't know it even came as a different color) and the red fittings, with the filter. If you like, you can PM me or e-mail me at [email protected].
Thanks,
Bryan

 

[PSI2HI]

I made a cold air on my 1G ff the 2G MAs and it dropped intake temps by about 40 degress compared to an in enigne bay intake. Mine was running int he mid to upper 90's and the in engine bay cars intake temps were running in the mid to upper 130's. So it definatly made an imprevement in intake temps. No idea how it affected anything else though, never did a before and after log on anything else.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by PSI2HI
I made a cold air on my 1G ff the 2G MAs and it dropped intake temps by about 40 degress compared to an in enigne bay intake. Mine was running int he mid to upper 90's and the in engine bay cars intake temps were running in the mid to upper 130's. So it definatly made an imprevement in intake temps. No idea how it affected anything else though, never did a before and after log on anything else.

are you talking about the one in you're PIC because it almost looks like ram air. very nice

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