Reasonable Price Wideband O2 tuner

[lxlaw]

Hey guys here is a bad ass place that has a nice wide band set up for a little more than an EGT and an autometer o2 gauge. I wouldnt think you would need both of those with this to take thier place. It comes out to under $600 with sensor. I think it is rather cheap and it is in America. Anyone ever heard of this company or dealt with them. This was from another import tuner site and they had excellent results. Sounds real good to me, how about you all.

http://www.interstice.com/~garfield/

 

[jdmawd]

dude that think is huge if you are going to pay 600 bucks try this

The HKS A/F Knock Amp with its built-in digital display and face mounted controls is deal for high performance engine tuning. This wide band Air/Fuel monitoring device offers visual and audible warnings for precision tuning.

your welcome in advance

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[red91tsiawd]

how much is the HKS one?

 

[jdmawd]

the site says 595

 

[autronicDSM]

That unit is not that huge. It's actually pretty cheap compared to other units but it all depends how many samples per sec. it measures. It could be a simple DIY kit in a fancy case. I tried to find some info on it but I couldn't how fast that thing is

 

[Violater101]

I've heard the one from Techedge is pretty nice, but I have also heard that the FJO is tons better. I havn't made up my mind on which to purchase yet. This is the first i've heard of the HKS piece.

 

[ClutchTSI/AWD]

Hey , jdmawd , do you have a web adress for that HKS A/F Knock Amp ?

 

[autronicDSM]

Jeez you people are ####ing lazy... http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=1694

 

[ClutchTSI/AWD]

Originally posted by autronicDSM
Jeez you people are ####ing lazy... http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=1694

I didn't mean HKS.com dude . I ment someplace that actualy sells it to the public. I can't find a dealer that has one from the list of dealers at Hks.com . I'm sorry i did't specify that in my above post , my/bad .

 

[lxlaw]

I havent found a place that sells it either. It looks like a nice piece, but how come no one on this board has bought the thing?? Is it a new part? I would like to do a little more reading on the features.

 

[jdmawd]

it just came out. im not sure of any venders that have it yet, im trying to buy one also

 

[lxlaw]

well when you find one and get it installed let us know, that sounds like a nice piece, also if you find out any technical info post that so we can check it out.

 

[980VR41k]

I emailed www.gruppe-s.com last week about the weather they carry the HKS knock amp. I got a reply back from Max saying that it's $450 shipped. I then emailed them again asking if he can send me some info about the unit or even fax me it and haven't gotten a reply back. I haven't confirmed if it's in stock or has to be ordered either, but the price is verified (not too bad either). There seems to be no info on this unit yet, anyone else able to find something out about it(other than the generic bit on HKS's sight)?

For all you HKS cam fan boys, www.gruppe-s.com sells HKS cams for $550 a set, which is a decent deal (I have seen one other place cheaper but can't find the link). Just to note, this was a price quote from @ July of 02.

Jason

 

[Yellow4g63]

Somone makes a unit that will work with the AEM ems unit plug and play. It's a company in the USA and it comes with a display thats a lil smaller than a AFC screen and comes with 9' of cable for the display. it's about $290 I haven't got the pics yet tho.

 

[asian312]

I sent HKS a message back a while ago, and the e-mail lead me to beieve the actual O2 sensor for the HKS unit was sold seperatly. Might want to ask around and confirm this, but I've been trying to get a straight respose from HKS. Oh and yes it reads knock on the 2Gs. ALso they can only be bought and installed by their pro-shops, but u know how that one goes :wink:

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by 980VR41k
I emailed www.gruppe-s.com last week about the weather they carry the HKS knock amp. I got a reply back from Max saying that it's $450 shipped. I then emailed them again asking if he can send me some info about the unit or even fax me it and haven't gotten a reply back. I haven't confirmed if it's in stock or has to be ordered either, but the price is verified (not too bad either). There seems to be no info on this unit yet, anyone else able to find something out about it(other than the generic bit on HKS's sight)?

For all you HKS cam fan boys, www.gruppe-s.com sells HKS cams for $550 a set, which is a decent deal (I have seen one other place cheaper but can't find the link). Just to note, this was a price quote from @ July of 02.

Jason

if thats the case im going to order one today. thanks for the heads up 450 is a lot better then 595.

 

[BoostinDSM]

When you do get it let me/us know how it works. I was going to buy a wide band, those run about 400.00. For 450.00 that's not bad at all, plus you get to monitor knock as well

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by BoostinDSM
When you do get it let me/us know how it works. I was going to buy a wide band, those run about 400.00. For 450.00 that's not bad at all, plus you get to monitor knock as well

i certainly will, however it will be some time before the car will be back up for tuning. lots of changes are being made. that are very time consuming

 

[Enigma_Man]

That first one is UGLY. Not that I'm against that, but you couldn't really mount it anywhere to use all the time. It looks like they just use it as a tuning tool, then disconnect it.

The HKS one, I can't find any real info on it, other than that quick blurb on the website about it. Does it actually use a Wideband O2? It only says wideband once in the whole site. Also, would the knock thing work for a 1g as well?

-Jesse

 

[jdmawd]

directly from the hks-usa web page.


The HKS A/F Knock Amp with its built-in digital display and face mounted controls is deal for high performance engine tuning. This wide band Air/Fuel monitoring device offers visual and audible warnings for precision tuning.

Not only is it a wide band o2. It also reads knock and gives audible warning for both. I would imagine the knock and lean condition warning points can be user adjustable.

 

[DSMu4ia]

I have a complete Techedge W/B kit, I paid $400/shipped WITH sensor.

It's the version 1.5, with the extra inputs to log other things. The basic kit to work on one car is $350/shipped.

These prices are BEFORE the sensor prices got jacked WAY up, expect to pay an extra $100 or so. Standard 5-wire sensors that are working with the above are going for $250 or something around there currently.

FJO's are nice, and better quality than the above. You pay for them though. FJO setups run upper $600-range for a basic kit to be used on one car. Similar to the $350-techedge version. For a version of the FJO like the v1.5 techedge, expect to pay $900-ish.

Now you still can't be TOO sure on either of the above, when thinking about EXACT readings. Best thing, would be to calibrate against a well known Dyno W/B, and figure out the %difference between theirs and yours.

FJO's are more consistent it seems, but then again, based on the techedge forum, alot of people are having a few slight problems. I attest this to the fact that these people are assembling the kits themsevles, and might not be doing everything exactly correct.

Who knows.

 

[lxlaw]

so do you think with a good wideband do you still need an EGT? If you could just buy one of the tools, Wideband, narrowband, or EGT, which would you buy?? Just trying to find out what might be the better choice for the masses. I would think that if i had a reliable wideband i wouldnt need the other 2, unless i was just using them for safety.

 

[Violater101]

DSM4uia: What sorts of problems where they having with the 1.5 I'm thinking of buying the techedge, but if its not as reliable as the FJO, then I might not. I didn't know they had a forum for it. I'll have to do some searching and check into that. Thanks,

 

[DSMu4ia]

Originally posted by Violater101
DSM4uia: What sorts of problems where they having with the 1.5 I'm thinking of buying the techedge, but if its not as reliable as the FJO, then I might not. I didn't know they had a forum for it. I'll have to do some searching and check into that. Thanks,

Calibration problems.

Like I said, the pre-made ones haven't had the problems, but mostly it's been with the people who trying to build these themselves and probably shouldn't.

These are the same people who shouldn't be modifying cars either, they are probably messing up the free-air calibration steps and other little things.

As long as you buy it pre-made from someone respectable I don't think it's a problem.

FJO is better no doubt, but at a nice price increase.

I'm gonna tune by mine, but seeing how my fwd will be too fast to do 4th gear pulls with, it will be dyno'd and tuned, and hence I'll have a good %marginerror of my W/B based on a well known working/stable/consistent W/B at the dyno.

HTH.

 

[Violater101]

Is it possible to calibrate it with so it would be intune with what you consider are more consistent w/b?