frank level 6

[Ryda85]

ok i m thinkin of buyin a 99 gsx that already has a level 6 frank in the car and everything else to go wit it. how is the spool up time on this? i want a nice 1/4 mile but i dunt wanna get killed goin light to light...the guy also sed he can change the frank 6 for a t3/4? i have neva had a turbo car and am learning as i go. thank u

 

[Nappy94]

A frank level 6 is huge, I would not suggest this as a street turbo. This turbo could put you into the 10's, but there will be noticeable lag. The turbo can support 600+BHP, what are the spec's on the T3/T4? If you post them people will be able to respond.

 

[Ryda85]

thats why i m posting...i m not sure of the specs..i dunno how much lag both of them have. i would love a car to be in the 10's or low 11's and i kno the frank could do it but i dunt wanna get killed racing on my streets. please help me

 

[GalantVR41062]

what is the fastest car you have ever driven? and you have never owned a turbo car befor? and you want to drive a DSM that is could with the right fuel/n2o/driver combo be looking at single digit ETs? How much are you going to pay for this vehical? and the lag, the Frank 6 looks like a 60-1 compressor wheel(60lbs/min, proven to run single digit ETs with a smaller exaust housing) in a mitsu 20g cover, mitsu center section with the TD06 exaust wheel, this turbo would come one around the 4,000rpm range(possably later, some one who has this turbo should say somthing). If I were you buy a DSM that is close if not totaly stock, I am for sure you would kill your self, the car, and many people around you for that matter.

~John
a T3/T4 combo for the 2g, I would go TO4E 60trim stage 3 .82AR exaust housing(cheap off the shelf not to much lag), but that would gey you mid 10s IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A DSM that is. And to just use "I have a T3/T4 turbo" is like saying I own a car, ok we know its a turbo but need to know compressor housing, comp wheel, exaust turbin, A/R, wheel size(stage 2,3,5) exaust housing style, 4bolt discharge, 5bolt discharge, this info is what defines the turbo.

 

[Ryda85]

thanks ill ask the guy the specs tonight....i have driven a 97 3000gt vr4 wit some mods...around 400 hp. this was a good friend of mine so i drove it alot. i currently have a 3000gt sl with basic bolt ons.

 

[IcemanPMA]

A friend of mine has the Frank Level 5 with all supporting mods (serious horsepower) and it doesn't hit big boost until 35-3600 RPM. The Frank 6 would of course come with even more lag. Just a thought.

 

[matthewdesigns]

Back from the dead.

Even though they are older turbos, they are still around, as I picked up one of these used last weekend. I thought I'd post some photos for reference, since I could not find any good ones here or on the web. Thanks to Jusmx141 for the help ultimately ID'ing it.

 

[JusMX141]

Mmmm....an 8cm DSM bolt-on turbine housing. So rare, I could lick it.

and the lag, the Frank 6 looks like a 60-1 compressor wheel [wrong](60lbs/min, proven to run single digit ETs with a smaller exaust housing) in a mitsu 20g cover, mitsu center section with the TD06 exaust wheel[wrong again], this turbo would come one around the 4,000rpm range(possably later, some one who has this turbo should say somthing).


a T3/T4 combo for the 2g, I would go TO4E 60trim stage 3 .82AR exaust housing(cheap off the shelf not to much lag), but that would gey you mid 10s IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A DSM that is. And to just use "I have a T3/T4 turbo" is like saying I own a car, ok we know its a turbo but need to know compressor housing, comp wheel, exaust turbin, A/R, wheel size(stage 2,3,5) exaust housing style, 4bolt discharge, 5bolt discharge, this info is what defines the turbo.

^ ^

This guy's on drugs.

A 60-trim / T31 wheel combo in a .82 a/r T3 turbine housing isn't as laggy as a bolt-on turbo? What planet are you from?

 

[MidShipCivic]

I hope we know this topic is from when human's didn't have aeroplanes and color tv .

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Resurrecting a thread from 2003?

Holy shit!

 

[JusMX141]

I hope we know this topic is from when human's didn't have aeroplanes and color tv .

Yup yup....and T04E 60-trims were "the next big thing" among DSMers.

 

[Ceddy]

What are the Frank 6 specs?

60 Trim Compressor, TD05H Turbine, 8cm Housing?

 

[dsm-onster]

Click. Some one needs to change the vfaq if they are wrong. The vfaq clearly states the frank 4 and 5 have the 60-trim compressor wheel. 4 having the etd06 turbine wheel an d5 having the td06h. That means that the frank level 6 HAS to be something different. It has to have a larger compressor wheel than the 60-trim at least. and what's next. . . Don't think the gt35r (56-trim compressor wheel was out yet)

 

[matthewdesigns]

I hope we know this topic is from when human's didn't have aeroplanes and color tv .

Resurrecting a thread from 2003?

Holy shit!

Back from the dead.

What are the Frank 6 specs?

60 Trim Compressor, TD05H Turbine, 8cm Housing?

TD06H turbine, all else correct. HorsepowerFreaks.com still lists these things for sale new. Here's what their description says:

# Mitsubishi TD06H Turbine Wheel, 8CM Turbine Housing.
# Mitsubishi TD06 20G Style Compressor Housing With 3 Inlet, 800CFM Garrett Compressor Wheel.
# Supports 610HP

Click. Some one needs to change the vfaq if they are wrong. The vfaq clearly states the frank 4 and 5 have the 60-trim compressor wheel. 4 having the etd06 turbine wheel an d5 having the td06h. That means that the frank level 6 HAS to be something different. It has to have a larger compressor wheel than the 60-trim at least. and what's next. . . Don't think the gt35r (56-trim compressor wheel was out yet)

Here's what Justin wrote in another thread:

- Frank Level 3 20G = 54-trim Garrett compressor wheel in a TD06 17C (2-1/4" inlet) or upgraded 20G (3" inlet) compressor cover, mated to a TD06 turbine.
- Frank Level 4 20G = 60-trim Garrett compressor wheel in an upgraded TD06 20G compressor cover, 3" inlet, mated to a TD06 turbine.
- Frank Level 5 20G = 60-trim Garrett compressor wheel in an upgraded TD06 20G compressor cover, 3" inlet, mated to a TD06H turbine.

When I talked to Justin about this turbo over the weekend he suggested that a Frank 6 might be a 5 with the addition of an 8cm^2 turbine housing, and in fact my turbo does have that hotside, and from his best guess those wheels. I'll need to pull it apart to make any definite measurements, but my best eyeball measure of the comp wheel inducer is 2 9/32" (2.28").

 

[Ceddy]

TD06H turbine, all else correct. HorsepowerFreaks.com still lists these things for sale new. Here's what their description says:

# Mitsubishi TD06H Turbine Wheel, 8CM Turbine Housing.
# Mitsubishi TD06 20G Style Compressor Housing With 3 Inlet, 800CFM Garrett Compressor Wheel.
# Supports 610HP

$1,484.01 <- Ouch!

So its basically an old school RED?

Should be a fun turbo.

 

[dsm-onster]

The fp red has a 60-1 compressor wheel (bigger wheel, same trim). Apparently the frank 6 has the smaller 60-trim compressor wheel. Garrett t4 compressor maps.

Is the turbine wheel clipped? I'm fairly certain that FP clips the td06h turbine wheel for the fp red but then uses the 7cm^2 housing. I think I'd rather have the larger housing to increase flow than killing the efficiency of the turbine wheel with a clip... But I don't know if the 8cm^2 housing is large enough to make up the difference. . . Then again you're only running a 60-trim 50ish lb/min compressor wheel, not a 60-1 60lb/min wheel.

 

[JusMX141]

Definitely not a clipped turbine on that turbo he's posted in the pics.

The more I look at that compressor, it does appear bigger than your standard 60-trim; but what's bigger in Garrett spec than a 60-trim which has six major blades and would still have a small enough hole to slide over a TD06H turbine shaft?

Perhaps that's a 25G compressor?

 

[matthewdesigns]

I'll pull the compressor cover off and get some measurements in the next few days. That way we'll know for sure.

 

[dsm-onster]

Get turbine specs too. It's easier to pull the turbine housing off anyway

 

[2DSMs]

Frank level 7 has the 25g mitsu wheel according to this.... Turbos Only for the Eagle 2G Eclipse-Talon from HorsepowerFreaks

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Frank level 7 has the 25g mitsu wheel according to this.... Turbos Only for the Eagle 2G Eclipse-Talon from HorsepowerFreaks

Which mitsu has specifically licensed to Greddy.

 

[dsm-onster]

Dowt. Guess we can't use a 25g compressor wheel except in a greddy titled compressor cover

 

[twicks69]

Geez, these are the good ole' turbos that were back in my day!

Heck, my first turbo upgrade was a DSM Performance ETA12 (Cost $1369 in 2002), followed by an ETA32 and an ETE32. Once all of these died or were not enough, I went to a big ole' 46-trimmed T28-killer from Turbochargers.com and then onto a Frank 4 in 2003.

The Frank 4 cost me $1500 new back in the day. After this turbo upgrade, I broke my first transmission.... 16 transmissions later....

 

[talondave]

16 transmissions later....

Wow!!! No wonder no one can find any replacment transmissions, you broke them all...

 

[twicks69]

Wow!!! No wonder no one can find any replacment transmissions, you broke them all...

Pretty much!