| Bolt-on Tech Intake, exhaust, intake manifold, ignition, fuel system, cooling, etc - specific to 4G63 turbocharged DSMs. |
08-28-2008, 09:56 PM
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raise your hand if you have made over 300+ hp on a 16g
yeah just wanted to get a list started for a friend.
He believes that most bolted on dsm 16g cars with proper fuel support make less than 300hp

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08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
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I think i qualify!
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08-28-2008, 10:58 PM
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I've made 339 fwhp with a big 16g and a 50 wet shot of ZEX juice..
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08-28-2008, 11:02 PM
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Ive never dynoed, but my car traps enough to be making 350chp, at 17psi on a china gt on E85
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08-28-2008, 11:12 PM
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Not really sure but i think i blew mine yesterday night  never got a chance to dyno it before this.
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08-28-2008, 11:17 PM
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i made 346awhp on the e316g just 20 psi on pump, and the fuel mods where megan fpr from ebay, by the way what does your friend drive?
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08-28-2008, 11:24 PM
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i made 346awhp on the e316g just 20 psi on pump, and the fuel mods where megan fpr from ebay, by the way what does your friend drive?
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he drives a honduh....go figure
its funny I know the full potential of a e316g but I just want this list as he dose not seem to believe a damn thing I say. In fact I think no matter what I say he just goes opposite.haha
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08-28-2008, 11:37 PM
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Just show him This, 460awhp/469ftlbs
And Curt Brown's 499 awhp
Tell him these are just 2 examples of what a 16G is capable of in the "right" hands. But for average Tuners. 300 whp is just a basic tune. 
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08-28-2008, 11:41 PM
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some of my friends are honda owners, do what i did even after you beat them back to back to back if they seem to think your car is still week give him a ride home and bring him around our forums im sure he will learn something.
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08-28-2008, 11:47 PM
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some of my friends are honda owners, do what i did even after you beat them back to back to back if they seem to think your car is still week give him a ride home and bring him around our forums im sure he will learn something.
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 Passengers feel more pull than drivers; haha. 
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08-28-2008, 11:48 PM
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08-29-2008, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 2gdanny
i made 346awhp on the e316g just 20 psi on pump, and the fuel mods where megan fpr from ebay, by the way what does your friend drive?
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the megan fpr is actually successful? the megan fprs are the ebay fprs with megan brand and add $10-20 more on top for the better brand and customer service--or lack there of, that comes from megan. i was thinking about those (without the megan tag), but there wasn't too many reviews on it, care to tell us about yours?
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08-29-2008, 07:46 AM
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I made 294 AWHP on Ca pump 91 craptane. And this was a tune that was prety conservative as it is my daily driver and I get about 23mpg at this power. And mine isn't even and E3 it's just a Big 16G un-ported.
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08-29-2008, 08:20 AM
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I made 294 AWHP on Ca pump 91 craptane. And this was a tune that was prety conservative as it is my daily driver and I get about 23mpg at this power. And mine isn't even and E3 it's just a Big 16G un-ported.
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Well, that sounds promising to me because that is the turbo I will be putting on in the next couple of days. What fuel mods do you have with that?
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08-29-2008, 09:44 AM
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Pretty sure that I was over 300. As I am dead even with a 600+whp supercharged 2004 viper. I put 3 to 4 cars on a c5 vette that ran 121 in the quarter. and can walk away from my friends on 600cc sportbikes (brand new ones) all on the interstate.
This was on a e316g and e85 on 35-36psi of boost and 26* of timing with a 8800rpm rev limiter. (boost would drop off after 7300rpm to between 30 and 33psi depending on the outside temp).
that was on a stock 4g61t motor.
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08-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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I did 370.9AWHP on a Dyno Dynamics, which is said to read lower than any other dyno. This was on E85, with the boost 25psi falling to about 22.5.
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08-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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This was on a e316g and e85 on 35-36psi of boost
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35PSI - how? External wastegate or no wastegate at all? Try a different boost gauge for a second opinion; when I first got my car I thought I was at 24psi, got a new gauge and I was actually at like 17. I can't see a 16G holding that kind of boost except maybe on a 1.6L Hyundai. I can hit like 31psi at 3500rpms and still can't get past 24-25psi at like 5 grand. Post a video.
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08-29-2008, 10:07 AM
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E316g, 22psi +c16
389hp 388tq
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08-29-2008, 12:35 PM
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35PSI - how? External wastegate or no wastegate at all? Try a different boost gauge for a second opinion; when I first got my car I thought I was at 24psi, got a new gauge and I was actually at like 17. I can't see a 16G holding that kind of boost except maybe on a 1.6L Hyundai. I can hit like 31psi at 3500rpms and still can't get past 24-25psi at like 5 grand. Post a video.
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My air-fuel ratios were at 12.0to1 across the whole rev range. and I was at 80% duty cycle on 1000cc injectors at 7000. I was reving to 8800.
I have a big intake and exhaust that helped a ton. I made my own intake pipe and new big k&n filter and went from 31psi to 36psi. I also have a internal gate that is shimmed. the turbo is very ported and the internal gate is dumped to the atmosphere.
this is on a jdm 1.6liter (1g size intake ports but the smaller combustion chamber) with fp2 cams. the car ran great
until a rod bolt let go :-(
I had ZERO knock up to 7000 and then the bolt let loose.
I have had 2 different boost guages in the car. both the same.
Make a really big intake and the biggest exhaust you can stand it makes a difference!
I will have a 2liter in the car soon with the same mods so we will see how that goes.
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08-29-2008, 02:00 PM
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