fp green vs agp rt60t

[mirkoelek]

which is one better, any specification

 

[LA97GST]

Um be way way way more specific. This question is so vague. Better how? More peak power potential? Spool up? Flow characteristics?

 

[gsxtacy]

Now that is a vague question, report this kind of question to the Moderators, thats what the button is for.

POSTER: Obviously can't read the rules.

gsxtacy

 

[maximumbob]

I am pretty sure this thread will be closed shortly, unless you have some specific questions about each. However the green has been proven to be a solid and well performing turbo as well as FP having great customer service. The RS60t is more similar to the FP Red do to the 60-1 wheel. Also if you do get the RS60t keep in mind that unless the water line to the old turbo is plugged the compressor housing will be rotated at a strange angle due to clearance issues. Whether 2g's can just plug the water line has been questioned in another that I am sure you could search for. Also the compressor housing leaks so you need to put some RTV on it once you get the compressor clocked to right. Aside from that I have the 60t and I love it so far even though i have some boost leaks that need to be taken care of. I have been too busy to really do anything with my car for the past few weeks.

 

[mirkoelek]

thanks man, it was easy for you to answer ... which is cool. I like these jerks complaining all the time. Being smart ass its not easy. When ask which one is better i mean generally which one is better and the question is very general. i ask PERFORMANCE and you can always add what do you think about spooling of the turbo. We all know that big turbo has problem with spooling so i dont need to know when is gonna spool. I need to know how much power can give it to me. bla bla bla ...........

 

[DGajre777]

They are not jerks complaining, they are following rules of this site. They aren't even similar turbos. FP Green is a technically a 50trim. If you wanted to compare the RS49 to the FP Green, then it would go somewhere but there are a few threads about that already.

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[bfdahl]

I have had the FP green and now run a RS 49 AGP. both of these turbos a amost the same and both are smaller than a 6o trim.

I like the exhast housings better on the AGP turbos.

and i like the wastgate accutators better on the AGP.

the RS 49 is a little quiker spooling than the Green.

I have never pushed either turbo to the limits so I cant tell you how far you can go from personal experiance. but a friend had a Green that would to 420 to 430 awhp on 91 pump and 460 on 110. and I think for a daily driver that is very stout and reliable power.

the 60-1s, I am told are not very responsive and slow speeds and smaller displacements (2.0s).

 

[daren_p]

I have had the FP green and now run a RS 49 AGP. both of these turbos a amost the same and both are smaller than a 6o trim.

I like the exhast housings better on the AGP turbos.

and i like the wastgate accutators better on the AGP.

the RS 49 is a little quiker spooling than the Green.

I have never pushed either turbo to the limits so I cant tell you how far you can go from personal experiance. but a friend had a Green that would to 420 to 430 awhp on 91 pump and 460 on 110. and I think for a daily driver that is very stout and reliable power.

the 60-1s, I am told are not very responsive and slow speeds and smaller displacements (2.0s).

I was just wondering why you switched from a green to a rs49 as the green is a more expensive turbo? Did you have a problem?

 

[almostquick]

if I were to choose either one, it would have to be the Green only for the fact that it is tried and true and backed by a good reputable shop, and I've driven in a Green powered car too.

 

[bfdahl]

I was just wondering why you switched from a green to a rs49 as the green is a more expensive turbo? Did you have a problem?

I got the green used, and it was set up with a Tial 35 mm ex. gate. which was noisy. and very conspicous here in LA.

so i sold it for a grand and switched to the AGP. I havnt personall seen an AGP go bad, but i have seen two Greens go south as well as a PTE 50 trim.

so its all a turkey shoot to me. and i said what the hell the Turd-bonetics has a warrenty.

its been rock solid so far.

 

[larsrya8]

Why didn't you re-route the wastegate back into your downpipe? Any muffler shop could've taken care of it for you. I would've rather done that then go through the hassle of selling my turbo and then installing another one, espesically when "downgrading" from FP to AGP. FP is considered one of the best (if not the best) quality turbo you can get.

But that's just me.

P.S. It's always nice to say why a particular turbo went bad. Was it because the oil feed/drain got clogged and the thrust bearing failed? Did it have shaft play from the factory? Did the owner use a turbo-timer or not? You can't just say something failed without stating the circumstances that caused it to.

 

[bfdahl]

Why didn't you re-route the wastegate back into your downpipe? Any muffler shop could've taken care of it for you. I would've rather done that then go through the hassle of selling my turbo and then installing another one, espesically when "downgrading" from FP to AGP. FP is considered one of the best (if not the best) quality turbo you can get.

But that's just me.

well, is all about the smog cops my friend.

but I guess if you feel your down grading thats a different topic all together.

I thing FP turbos are over hyped. there exhaust housing is deffantly NOT better than the AGP. its a hogged out mitsuhousing made to accomadate the Garret. and this green i had with 6000 miles had the same shaft play as my AGP dose now.

this turbo IS a good turbo but in 2005 not worth 1200-1300 $

 

[larsrya8]

Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about failing a visual inspection... does that mean that everyone in California has to have an internal wastegate? How does that work exactly? Actually, I don't even care haha. I don't live in California, and if you're happy then that's all that matters. It's not like you can get your Green back anyway.

The AGPs use a Bullseye housing don't they? I haven't read anything about them, so I can't comment about that. All I've heard is that the RS series are more reliable than the RST series. You can find this argument if you search. They both are bolt-ons, but there has been trouble with the Turbonetics model. Something to think about if you're in the market for an AGP...

 

[bfdahl]

Oh yeah, I remember hearing something about failing a visual inspection... does that mean that everyone in California has to have an internal wastegate? How does that work exactly? Actually, I don't even care haha. I don't live in California, and if you're happy then that's all that matters. It's not like you can get your Green back anyway.

The AGPs use a Bullseye housing don't they? I haven't read anything about them, so I can't comment about that. All I've heard is that the RS series are more reliable than the RST series. You can find this argument if you search. They both are bolt-ons, but there has been trouble with the Turbonetics model. Something to think about if you're in the market for an AGP...

Well, in Cali. ANY mod from the cat forward is Illeagle! (without CARB ID numbers that is).

many people run external gates but at smog time they either pay someone to do it under the table for 400$ or so or if they are unluck and have to go to a "test only" station they may end up swithing everything back to stock. or theres me whose in the trade and I can talk a fellow smog tech in to hookin a brother up.

My logic is fairly simple on the matter, I have 91 oct. gas so you might get 22 to 24 psi if you a great tuner, with out any other types of detonation deturant and that is all the boost you can run period, so just have you 50 trim internally gated and be happy. if I had better gas and or Raced the car alot Id get a better turbo and and external gate.

AS for AGP exhuast housings or Bullseye turbos I havnt even seen a bullseye turbo around here yet. so i cant comment on similarities or differences.

If 20Gs were as cheap a 16 gs Id probably still run a mitsu turbo!

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Whoever posted the info from the FAQ forum, Thanks.