L2R help

[96turbogst]

Ok right now my engine internaly is stock will it cause a problem if i get this turbo and put it on this engine. i have another i am trying to build up at the moment but want soemthing now.. Larryd i used to talk to you on newcelica.org seems we both went other ways. how do you like the turbo? also how far can i turn it down.. i have seen 13psi but on a turbo this big im sure its still alot of stress so how far can i turn the boost down and how far do you think i can turn it up before i will put a rod through the side?

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

I ran 20psi on my L2R with the stock block.

 

[got traction?]

Depends on your tuning and how you maintain the car.

 

[96turbogst]

still how far can the boost be tunred down. i just mobil 1 every 2.5k

 

[MaineDSM]

There is a guy who has a low 11 second 500+ hp stock block in our local club. He has over 300 passes on the thing. It *does* have big rods however.

I would say your L2R isn't going to cause a problem if you are careful and avoid lotsa knock.

Run it till it breaks, then get a new engine.

 

[96turbogst]

i just bought another engine its gettin put it now its brand new.. my old 1 i want to build up.. it was verry stong.. even had some friends swear i had a small 16g on it. no i know alil about engines and all but not really anything with the internals any sugestions? 3,500 is about all i would really wanna spend on parts maybe 4000.

i was lookin at this

je forged pistons
rods not sure
hks cams
what else is there i want the most out of it i got a friend who owns a shop who can port and polish

 

[AWDGSXownsU]

eagle rods is probally all your engine will ever need. je pistons are good so are ross. wisecos are good too ive heard. hks cams are the best only go with hks. webs suck in my oppinion. if you want serious power and dont mind the lil low end loss get hks 272/272 cams. crower springs and retainers is probally all your head will ever need to rev to 8.5. then you have to worry about your tranny shifting at that high of rpm so you will probally need a tre tranny for 2000 bux then your gonna need port polish job by your friend 1mm oversized swirl polish valves Stainless steel bronze valve guides maybe new lifers and rocker arms i fyour old ones are trashed a magnus intake manifold for that high breathing fire spitting motor you have now so it can take in all that air your monster turbo is going to spit at it (magnus intakes are on sale for 500 now) a good FMIC like victory or IRC RACe core, 3 inch exhaust big wastegate and if you have balls some nos. maybe a custom exhaust manifold to have equal lenght pulses but 2g ported manifold have gone 9's. and then your going to need to lighten your car and add 100 lbs to it by adding a 8pt roll cage unless you like saying "my car is too fast for the track" and get banned from racing on the track cause you ran faster than a 12.00 on the track and didnt have a roll cage and dont follow nhra rules. and probally a clutch and scatter shield for that ridicously light flywheel your going to have. all in all your looking to spend more than 4000. the labor alone will probally be 1200 bux and thats just the maching and assembly of your block and head.

thats my .02 cents whats yours ?

Manny
92 gSX

 

[96turbogst]

i was talking about 3,500-4,00 on the internals of my engine. not any other parts. i am fwd all i want is a awsome highway car and run high to low 11's

 

[AWDGSXownsU]

if your fwd you have to ad new rims and slicks and race gas to the engine mods abouve for high to low 11's.

manny
92 GSX

 

[16g-95gsx]

Running 20psi on an L2R is a waste. The turbo was meant to go further, so please do not kid yourself and tell me that you will be ok with just running 20psi, as that is a lie and you know you will eventually push the envelope. 2g motors handle 400whp, with a good setup, a setup that would be intended for that turbo, you will be pushing over that limit even on the street. I believe if you really want that turbo, then do not kid yourself build the engine. Eagle rods can be had for 450, wiseco pistons are about 400, there is a eagle rod/wiseco piston package I saw at a DSM vendor for about 870 bucks with rings and pins. There wouldnt be much more that your bottom end needs. Now for the head, get a good street port, which usually will run you 1200 dollars if you want 1mm oversized valves along with the port, and throw in a 600 dollar set of cams. All in all you should spend about 3500 dollars hopefully on that setup. I wouldnt waste your time with the sheetmetal intake manifold, as they are just rediculously priced sometimes (800 dollars etc) I would just have a 1g intake mani, and if you really must, extrude hone it. Get a 1g NT throttle body, which is slightly larger than a 1g turbo TB, and certainly both are larger than the 2g Turbo TB. All together you should have spent a few hundred less than 4000, and you'd have a fully built 6 bolt block, built/ported head with nice cams, and a high flowing intake mani and TB. Call it a day, as that is all the motor you will be needing, and it will last you to around 600whp, which that turbo wont even be touching without nitrous.

 

[MaineDSM]

Originally posted by 96turbogst
i was talking about 3,500-4,00 on the internals of my engine. not any other parts. i am fwd all i want is a awsome highway car and run high to low 11's

You don't need to spend ANYTHING on the INTERNALS of your engine!

A small-rod 4G63 can handle 400hp all day long. Spend the money on other stuff, like the turbo, intercooler, suspension and maintainence.

Half the time people get their engines worked on, the damn thing blows up 500 miles later. NOBODY puts these engines together as well as the factory does.

 

[96turbogst]

i have a 96 7 bolt engine is my problem build it or no.. is there anyguys on here with a 7 bolt thats built that runs good and makes alot of power.. just want to make sure im not waisting my time

 

[GSX4LIFE]

I have a built 7 bolt. It does run very well now. But I spent alot of money. Had it go sour and Estreme Motorsports would not take responsibility. Paid some more money for them to fix it, and it has been running flawlessly ever since. I will be Dynoing on the 7th, so I cant give you any HP numbers as of yet. But its making ALOT of power. There is another Member(Swordfish). He also has a built 7bolt.

 

[96turbogst]

ok and what intercooler would u guys recomend. im looking at the new hahn.. i want soemthin that looks good and works well.. hahn has a new fmic im looking at.. what im saying is the greddy looks good in a 97-99 bumper i want somethin that looks liek that not half way fills it up

 

[Z1500]

www.indyracecores.com
the biggest and the best

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

 

[GSX4LIFE]

As you can see, I run the Hahn. It works awesome. One of the best,in quality, I have ever seen. Even after long, hard boosting runs, it never gets more than slightly warm. I think Swordfish is also running this intercooler. And he has the L3R. Im running the L2R.

 

[DSMu4ia]

Originally posted by 16g-95gsx
Running 20psi on an L2R is a waste. The turbo was meant to go further, so please do not kid yourself and tell me that you will be ok with just running 20psi, as that is a lie and you know you will eventually push the envelope. 2g motors handle 400whp, with a good setup, a setup that would be intended for that turbo, you will be pushing over that limit even on the street. I believe if you really want that turbo, then do not kid yourself build the engine. Eagle rods can be had for 450, wiseco pistons are about 400, there is a eagle rod/wiseco piston package I saw at a DSM vendor for about 870 bucks with rings and pins. There wouldnt be much more that your bottom end needs. Now for the head, get a good street port, which usually will run you 1200 dollars if you want 1mm oversized valves along with the port, and throw in a 600 dollar set of cams. All in all you should spend about 3500 dollars hopefully on that setup. I wouldnt waste your time with the sheetmetal intake manifold, as they are just rediculously priced sometimes (800 dollars etc) I would just have a 1g intake mani, and if you really must, extrude hone it. Get a 1g NT throttle body, which is slightly larger than a 1g turbo TB, and certainly both are larger than the 2g Turbo TB. All together you should have spent a few hundred less than 4000, and you'd have a fully built 6 bolt block, built/ported head with nice cams, and a high flowing intake mani and TB. Call it a day, as that is all the motor you will be needing, and it will last you to around 600whp, which that turbo wont even be touching without nitrous.

600whp eh?

On a stock manifold eh?

Nothing better than Joe Schmoe's backyard ported heads eh?

Sheetmetal intakes for $500 that give you between 40-80whp, but wait, you just spent $1200 for a nice paperweight head job that might have added 10whp eh.

Eh.

 

[larryd]

Originally posted by 16g-95gsx
Running 20psi on an L2R is a waste. The turbo was meant to go further, so please do not kid yourself and tell me that you will be ok with just running 20psi, as that is a lie and you know you will eventually push the envelope.

this is a good point and its true.. I know what the turbo can do and I intend on pushing it to its extent.