Can an amateur build a 6 bolt from a bare block??????? I wanna learn

[gsxeclipsed]

Hey guys i just wanna know if u think i can build a 6bolt motor from a bare block???? I have alittle experience with engines but not much. Can it be done i have the will cuz there is nothin in the world i like more then cars.(well girls )

 

[BoostinAWD]

If you don't know what plastiguage and endgap are, don't count on it.

 

[gsxeclipsed]

If you don't know what plastiguage and endgap are, don't count on it.

Not Sure but i will learn

 

[igopoopy]

why not i did

 

[gsxeclipsed]

why not i did

Thats wat i like to hear

 

[ikickuintheball]

It can be done, but don't learn on something you plan on using to race with (or at all. ). I talked to a lot of local DSM guru's about the same thing not too long ago, and they all agree that it's best to have someone who knows what they're doing to build a motor for you, and if you want to learn how to build a motor, get another one on the side to learn on.

Good luck!

 

[half-cocked]

Well having someone that does it for a living is of course a better option then doing it yourself, but get yourself a FSM and a good resource book (I read Sunnens complete cylinder head and engine rebuild handbook cover to cover) you should be able to build a good running engine that can take some abuse.

 

[CMiuc12s]

I totally agree with ikickuintheball. But, I did build my own with alittle experience. and it's still going strong. I now have a spare motor that I am going to build up with a stroker kit. If you do your homework on these motors they are not all that difficult to rebuild. but remember, DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Good luck.

 

[98spyderboost]

It can be done by anyone who is willing to spend the TIME to do it right. Time means doing lots of homework. Get some books! Information is your friend. If you dont know, dont be afraid to ask, even tho some people will flame you. That's part of it. You may backtrack a few times and second guess yourself, dont let this discourage you. It means your learning. BTW if you want to do this to learn, do NOT give yourself a time limit. If your daily driver will be taken out for the rebuild then dont do it. Take your time. And above all, learn and have fun, that's what it's all about. Have fun!

 

[black92_tsi_awd]

Read up on it BEFORE you start, take you're time, ask questions and oh yeah... TAKE YOUR TIME!

There's not a better feeling than when that engine fires for the first time, and you built it!

 

[CMiuc12s]

Just listen to these guys here. They have all been there too. Not only will it take time but it won't be cheep either. So just be prepared. G/L.

 

[98spyderboost]

Just listen to these guys here. They have all been there too. Not only will it take time but it won't be cheep either. So just be prepared. G/L.

Nope, it will never be cheap! That is for sure. But it will be fun

 

[orangetalon]

It can be done by anyone who is willing to spend the TIME to do it right. Time means doing lots of homework. Get some books! Information is your friend. If you dont know, dont be afraid to ask, even tho some people will flame you. That's part of it. You may backtrack a few times and second guess yourself, dont let this discourage you. It means your learning. BTW if you want to do this to learn, do NOT give yourself a time limit. If your daily driver will be taken out for the rebuild then dont do it. Take your time. And above all, learn and have fun, that's what it's all about. Have fun!

Dude that is a great reply!

I'm doing this right now, I've done other cars, but never a 4G. I've read COUNTLESS hours of stuff. Internet, books, www.howstuffworks.com is wonderful.

I'll post more info as I progress.

 

[project94tsi]

I would reccomend after you get the short block assembled take it to a good DSM shop that knows alot about the 4g63 and have them over look everything, same with the head. A clean and organized garage is a must along with all the correct tools, do not caveman anything ie. using large hammers and crowbars instead of the correct tool. Good luck it is an awesome experience and when you are done and first start it up you will have such a feel of acomplishment.

 

[gsxeclipsed]

Alright well im ganna do it. Well i guess im ganna have some reading to do.

 

[MNGSX]

Get the service manual and follow the overhaul manual...

Get Eagle or scat rods and wiseco pistons.... Fool proof..

Get the block bored, honed, line honed and tanked... The final bore dimension is critical to the performance and durability of the engine.. .003 larger than the piston at the skirt.

Just look over the crank.. If you can run a penny across it w.o leaving any copper on the journals they are fine. Just have it micro-polished.

The most critical things are all on the machine shop when you get good parts like this..

Just get std sized clevite bearings..

Since the crank isn't getting turned, the mains have been line honed and the rods are constructed to better tolerances... You wont have the bearing clearance problems some people have with stock parts either.

The block will be cleaner than you have ever seen before coming from the shop..

Keep all the nice new and refinished parts clean like you got them and assemble per the manual with assembly lube.

 

[kalla]

I had never rebuilt a motor either, but I read up on how the motor is assembled (service manual) and took the block and crankshaft to a local shop and had it prepared. I also had them connect the rods and pistons together, so all I had to do at home was assemble everything. I just followed the service manual and used common sense, plus I took my time and didn't rush anything. I did of course have all the proper tools, plus an engine stand and hoist. The motor runs great now.

 

[gsxeclipsed]

Thats one problem i dont have an engine stand or hoist :thumbdown

 

[MNGSX]

Thats one problem i dont have an engine stand or hoist :thumbdown

You can rent a knock down engine hoist cheap...

Northern tool, harbor freight has cheap ass engine stands that a little 4cyl will be just fine on... I would'nt build a 502 big block on one of those stands but our motors yes... The smaller arms and plate help fit the little block on the smaller stands too.

 

[kalla]

Thats one problem i dont have an engine stand or hoist :thumbdown

I got them cheap from a friend, look in your local classifieds ....

 

[Jhoe]

You can do it...I did it with a 2.4 , then again I kinda cheated and have someone working at Sunnen but with so much material here to read and other resources starting with no knowledge at all can quickly change. When you order parts just ask the people you are ordering from, most people are willing to help. Good luck, it is expensive, but fun as hell and a very rewarding experience like they said when you first start that sucker up

 

[orangetalon]

Harbor Frieght Tool Engine stand 39.99!

 

[MNGSX]

Harbor Frieght Tool Engine stand 39.99!

When I can use my buddys engine hoist I rent one from a local rental place.. A bluebird knock down... Lets just say I think it was made for bus engines.... It works has a leveler etc.. $20 a day.

 

[GreatEagle]

Not to change the subject, but if you have a Pep Boys near by a hoist is only 120 dollars. You can get a stand for under 50 bucks. Renting is cool but if you have the room and 200 dollars you could own your own hoist. It comes in handy on those long sleepless nights or the long weekends.

 

[jott5555]

agreed ^^^^

just read through the vfaq's make the machinest your best friend and i think youll be OK..
definetly get a micrometer and triple check everything..