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JTURBOGSX

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hey all I was wondering if you guys could answer a few questions for me when I upgrade the turbo in the near future which turbo is more similar appearance to the stock t25. Also performance wise....between the 16g and the evo III :dsm:
 
For christ sakes... just go with the EvoIII16g. Bang for buck the performance is great and it's probably one of the most flexible steetable turbos out there.
 
Go T-28, it's almost the same thing as an Evo III. Less complicated of an install...
 
Forced Performance has teh bigt28 for about 719 shipped.

Slowboy has the evo 16g for 569.
then u gata add the install kit for 200 so 769 plus shipping

The bigt28 has faster spool up then a evo 16g but the evo still spools great and has more top end power than a t28.

Evo 16g is the better turbo in my opinion but if u want an easy and direct no bs bolt on go with the t28 its a lil cheaper too.
 
Well the question was S16g or E16g..

That is the easiest question Ive answered in a long time. I dont think Id install a S16g on a stock DSM even if it was given to me. The E16g is superior in pretty much every way.

As far as the T28 its a great turbo for a 2g that bolts right in, I would say that is imbetween the S16 and E16. Id personally go with the E16 given those 3 choices. Of course all 3 of those turbos are 2 small. :thumb:
 
DaygoErm said:
Go T-28, it's almost the same thing as an Evo III. Less complicated of an install...
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Are you crazy or just uninformed? Here's some hard numbers for ya: t-28= 34lb/min, FP B28=36lb/min, small 16g= 35lb/min, and Evo III 16g= 42lb/min. Just for comparosons sake a 20g is rated at 44lb/min. Also, the E16g spools QUICKER on my 2g than the small 16g I had previously. The E16g has a lighter comp. wheel and better designed turbine housing that helps it spool faster.
As far as the install; ANY 16g is just as easy as a t-28. You have a couple extra steps (bolting on a j-pipe which is all of 30 sec.) but if you can handle the install of a t-28 then a 16g is NO harder! I would not recommend anything other than a E16g to anyone (looking in that price/size range) unless they are going for the uber sleeper look and then a FP B28.
 
jmakado said:
Are you crazy or just uninformed? Here's some hard numbers for ya: t-28= 34lb/min, FP B28=36lb/min, small 16g= 35lb/min, and Evo III 16g= 42lb/min. Just for comparosons sake a 20g is rated at 44lb/min. Also, the E16g spools QUICKER on my 2g than the small 16g I had previously. The E16g has a lighter comp. wheel and better designed turbine housing that helps it spool faster.
As far as the install; ANY 16g is just as easy as a t-28. You have a couple extra steps (bolting on a j-pipe which is all of 30 sec.) but if you can handle the install of a t-28 then a 16g is NO harder! I would not recommend anything other than a E16g to anyone (looking in that price/size range) unless they are going for the uber sleeper look and then a FP B28.
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That sums it up right there. Why the hell are the rest of you recommending the T-28?? Is just because it looks stock??
 
98spydert said:
That sums it up right there. Why the hell are the rest of you recommending the T-28?? Is just because it looks stock??
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LOL hehe

im getting the evo 3 once i finish up with the supportting mods
 
Are you crazy or just uninformed? Here's some hard numbers for ya: t-28= 34lb/min, FP B28=36lb/min, small 16g= 35lb/min, and Evo III 16g= 42lb/min. Just for comparosons sake a 20g is rated at 44lb/min. Also, the E16g spools QUICKER on my 2g than the small 16g I had previously.

im curious as to where you got these numbers and what psi each turbo was tested at. with my safc at -5 for the highs and at 22 psi on my 50 trim, i saw a max of 40.44 lbs/min. on my logger. so to compenstae for the -5 on the safc u gotta add a pound or 2 per minute. so maybe 42 lbs/minute i was seeing at 22 psi.
 
lowridin2g said:
yes, i believe your right, but thats alos at 26 psi and on a 1g head with 1g intake mani, and i believe he runs 272/264 hks cam setup
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That doesn't matter either way, it just shows that the Turbo is capable of flowing 44lbs/min.
 
lowridin2g said:
im curious as to where you got these numbers and what psi each turbo was tested at. with my safc at -5 for the highs and at 22 psi on my 50 trim, i saw a max of 40.44 lbs/min. on my logger. so to compenstae for the -5 on the safc u gotta add a pound or 2 per minute. so maybe 42 lbs/minute i was seeing at 22 psi.
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It doesn't matter what you get or what I get or what shape gets for that matter. Those are just the ratings that the turbo manufacturer puts out. Most can be found on the web with the E16g being the hardest to find. FP has it posted on there website. You can also look here: http://www.rmdsm.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2393
One of our local guys spent some time and gathered all of this. Also has many comp. maps.
Your 50 trim is rated at 47-49lb/min (can't remember exactly).
Not sure why so many people find it so hard to believe that the E16g flows that much. It is the EXACT same wheel used on the evo 8. Look at some of the times people are laying down on stock turbo'd evos! True, the evo 8 has a larger turbine housing but that only changes where and for how long the turbo pulls. The comp. wheel is capable of flowing the same in either setup.
 
People should only talk if they know what they are talking about.

the evo 16g is the better choice, Will last you longer and can go faster than the small.

And iv done pretty much all i can do on the small 16g, keep in mind im a full wieght 2g as well. The car made 338awhp on the small 16g and race gas. Slowboy did a evo16g setup on a stroker moter and made 400whp. So take your pic both are good turbos.
 
Your not just gettin the jpipe ur also gettin nuts,bolts,hoses,clamps,oil line,fittings etc..
Im just tellin you what most 2g guys buy not that you should buy an install kit for 200 its all up to you. If you want to do it your way go ahead no ones stopping you,its just retarded how you have to question every lil thing i say...We dont even know if you own a dsm :rolleyes:
 
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