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I haven't a clue what is wrong with my a/t

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exile

15+ Year Contributor
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Aug 8, 2004
Westminster, Maryland
I just bought my 95 Eclipse GSX a few months ago. I've never owned a turbo car, or a car at all, before this. I don't have a reference point to compare how my car performs compaired to other turbo cars or completely up to par turbo Eclipses.

It has an a/t transmission (when I purchased it I was just happy to have a GSX at ALL) and I'm having alot of throttle response issues. This is the deal: From a complete stop, to a start in traffic I must push the pedal in about 55-60% to get ANY response faster than +5mph. What I mean is, If I pushed it in about 10% I would only move at about 10mph, if I pushed it all the way up to 40% or so it STILL only gives me a speed of about 10-15mph. Then, I push it about half way or a little over and the boost fully kicks in and launches me, I accelerate to a normal speed from that point on. I understand that turbo takes a while to spool up, but if I left my gas pedal at about 30% for as long as I wanted the turbo wouldn't kick in and I wouldn't be moving much at all.

This is becoming a HUGE problem as I commute on the highway early in the morning and have to sit in traffic. Alot of people recommend me putting in a lower gear and travel like that. It's a solution for the TRAFFIC but at any other time (i.e. red lights, pulling out of a parking lot, etc) I will still have the slow accelration enless I punch it.

(This is a long post I know. Thanks for reading)

So what I have to do now is I have to punch the gas at about 70%, the engine pauses, I boost up to about 20-30mph then I have to let off of the gas immediately to about 20-30% to get my speed to about 40-50.

I cannot slowly accelerate from 20-30-40 mph at all. It feels like the only time my car will really do anything is if I'm boosting at 10psi+ It's either I go REALLY slow or REALLY fast to get anywhere.

I'm thinking I have a dying transmission and major boost leak. My options at this point are, pay for a rebuilt a/t, swap to an m/t or get a new car. I'm leaning toward M/T or a new car.

Please (if you're still reading this) post any suggestions you have (other than checking for boost leak because this weekend is going to be "boost leak weekend" in my driveway).
 
welcome to the dsm club :thumb: . Get use to your car not running. :notgood: I've been working on dsm's for about 2 years now and i know for a fact... they like to break....a lot. Your best bet would be to try to locate all the boost leaks that you can find. I had a leak and it felt slow as hell. fixed the leak, and it felt 10xs better. If you're really worried about your tranny then take it and have a technition to have it looked at. I just bought my first dsm, and i've already put 4000 dollars worth of work done on it. If you truly love your car, I'd give it a chance....at least thats what i reccommend
 
Sounds like you have a bad Torque converter or a bad Tranny pump. I had the same issues that you are describing before. You will need a new transmission rebuilt. The auto to 5spd swap isnt worth the money.
 
Eclipsei95cl said:
The auto to 5spd swap isnt worth the money.

i call MAJOR BS on that one.....if you got connections and know where to look for parts you can do manual swap for 1/2 of what it would take a shop to rebuild the tranny....

Just to give you an idea.....previous owner of my DSM had the tranny rebuild...costed him $2200 total.......I killed the tranny 3 weeks back (bad bearing tore shit up).....costed me little under $600 to get it fixed....did all the labor myself (very easy actually), $350 brand new CRS remanufactured tranny, $50 Alto End clutch, $80 Translab shift kit, $100 3X torgue converter.....

BTW is your tranny shifting?? sounds like ur stuck in limp mode to me......if it does shift pull the pan and check for shavings...

halik
 
halik008 said:
i call MAJOR BS on that one.....if you got connections and know where to look for parts you can do manual swap for 1/2 of what it would take a shop to rebuild the tranny....

Just to give you an idea.....previous owner of my DSM had the tranny rebuild...costed him $2200 total.......I killed the tranny 3 weeks back (bad bearing tore shit up).....costed me little under $600 to get it fixed....did all the labor myself (very easy actually), $350 brand new CRS remanufactured tranny, $50 Alto End clutch, $80 Translab shift kit, $100 3X torgue converter.....

BTW is your tranny shifting?? sounds like ur stuck in limp mode to me......if it does shift pull the pan and check for shavings...

halik

Calling what I say Bullshit eh? A simple "no it could be done cheap" but dont talk to me like my opinion is totally wrong.

A full rebuilt Auto transmission yes goes for around 2k.

To do the 5spd swap your going to need a a 5spd,transfercase,clutch,flywheel,pedals and all the little things.

To be honest if you buy a cheap parts car for under 1500-2k the transmission is going to have like over 100k etc. Would you want to put a 100k 5spd in your ride let alone even if it works. You would probably have to send it to TRE get it built, upgrade the clutch, resurface the flywheel etc and we havent even gotten to the labor of this unless you can do it all yourself.

Halik, if you havent done the 5spd swap or even attempted it dont call what I say Bullshit.

I have done it all found a parts car built a tre trans and everything was about to go in and the swap would've been done but then i realized I was spending well over 4k and yes I was getting hooked up. I just said screw it if you want a 5spd just buy a new car.
 
Eclipsei95cl said:
Calling what I say Bullshit eh? A simple "no it could be done cheap" but dont talk to me like my opinion is totally wrong.

A full rebuilt Auto transmission yes goes for around 2k.

To do the 5spd swap your going to need a a 5spd,transfercase,clutch,flywheel,pedals and all the little things.

To be honest if you buy a cheap parts car for under 1500-2k the transmission is going to have like over 100k etc. Would you want to put a 100k 5spd in your ride let alone even if it works. You would probably have to send it to TRE get it built, upgrade the clutch, resurface the flywheel etc and we havent even gotten to the labor of this unless you can do it all yourself.

Halik, if you havent done the 5spd swap or even attempted it dont call what I say Bullshit.

I have done it all found a parts car built a tre trans and everything was about to go in and the swap would've been done but then i realized I was spending well over 4k and yes I was getting hooked up. I just said screw it if you want a 5spd just buy a new car.

you got some shitty hookup's then.....i was gonna do swap when my tranny went...i could have everything for swap minus a tranny for $500...... $1000 is pleanty for AWD tranny again if u know where to look......

halik
 
Eclipsei95cl said:
You are telling me you could do a 5spd swap for 500 bucks?

no...read what i wrote.....i said i could have everything minus 5speed tranny for $500.....so depending for what the final price u shooting for $1500 or $2000, you have between $1000 to $1500 for the tranny itself which is more then pleanty if u know where to look..

halik
 
I did read what you wrote but you make no sense. So your saying 1500-2000 for a 5spd swap?
 
Sell the car and buy a 5 speed if you really want one. The swap just isn't worth it. Yeah, you can do it cheap but how long would it run if it ran at all? If you really like the car and don't want to give it up just get the A/T rebuilt.

PS, You could take the 2k that it would take to get the tranny rebuilt and just use that money to get out of your current car. Yes you would be losing money up front but you may save in the long run.

Good Luck with whatever you decide...
 
Eclipsei95cl said:
I did read what you wrote but you make no sense. So your saying 1500-2000 for a 5spd swap?

going off the price range u gave in your earlier post, i seen 5speed trannys going for $500-$700 with @70k on them. Of course that's not on dsmtuners, but local hookups...

halik
 
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