New Thread , Choose best CAR "PC ........

[STECARS]

Need to decide which setup is best for the money and also , what are the pro's and cons of the different systems. Iam very new to computers in general so please keep it simple and dont forget to vote.


1 Ok first is the logic system,
With all of the best options $900 without screen and with a 7" lilliput TS its about $1200. (here is link to specs and options)

C134 System Features:


• Power Solutions:
60 Watt Morex Car Power Kit with lighter adapter and AC adapter or

60 or 80 Watt Morex Power Supply with ITPS and AC adapter (ITPS NOT installed)

• VIA EPIA M Series Mainboards:

600 Mhz VIA Eden or 1 Ghz VIA C3 Processor

VIA CLE266 Northbridge, VT8235 Southbridge Chipset

1 DDR 266 DIMM memory socket

1 10/100 Base-T Ethernet onboard LAN

Integrated VIA Unichrome AGP graphics with MPEG-2 accelerator

TV-out and S-video/SPDIF

VIA VT1616 6 channel AC'97 Codec audio

• Front Access USB and Firewire 1394

• Slim type Slotloading or Trayloading CD/DVD drives

• Slim (notebook 2.5”) Hard Drives

• Ultra Low Profile Memory

• Case Dimensions: 7" x 2" x 10"
• Lilliput or Xenarc 7" Wide Screen VGA TFT Display with Touchscreen (optional)

All mini-ITX systems are built to order and tested for 24 hours. Allow 3 to 5 working days before shipping.

Available Options:
Power Supply: Morex 60 Watt CAR Power (12V) and AC Adapter (110V)Morex 60 Watt with ITPS and AC Adapter (+$10.00)Morex 80 Watt CAR Power (12V) and AC Adapter (110V) (+$19.00)Morex 80 Watt with ITPS and AC Adapter (+$29.00)
Operating System: -Windows XP Home - English (+$115.00)
Motherboard: EPIA M10000 1GHz (+$26.00)
Monitor: -Lilliput 619GL-70NP 7" VGA TFT Wide Screen Display (+$269.00)
Memory: 512MB Ultra Low Profile PC2100 RAM (+$111.75)
Hard Disk: 2.5" 80GB Hitachi 4200rpm (+$113.00)
Color: Black
CD / DVD Drive: TEAC DW-224E-93 Slimline CD-RW / DVD Combo (+$120.00)
Build and test: -Build and test this system (+$35.00)

http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/products_id/198




2 Second is zenarc's computer

$1400 with no screen

Product ID: MP-FL8 Category: Car PC
MP-FL8 Mini P4-Class Fanless PC w/ 6-Channel Surround
Description: Small Footprint: 5.8"x9.8"x2.79"; Fanless Operation; Built-in Audio & Video, 6-Channel Surround sound, 10/100base-T Ethernet, 3-USB 2.0, 1 Fire-Wire, 1 SPDIF, 1 TV-Out, 1 Mic-in, 1 Headphone out, 1 Line-out, 2 PS2, 1 Serial, 12V DC power input.
Price: $799.00
1. Processor Intel Celeron 2.0GHz
2. Memory (Low Profile) 1GB PC3200 DDR (add $330.00)
3. Hard Drive (2.5-Inch) 80GB 4200RPM HDD (add $196.00)
4. Modular CD/DVD Drive DVD/CD-RW Combo (add $135.00)
5. Operating System Windows Xp home (add $119.00)

here is link

http://www.xenarcdirect.com/search_...chParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&iLevel=1



so please help me figure out what are the differences and whats a better deal, not only which ones is cheaper becuase thats obvious


Guys , Please feel free top debate amongst the 2 options, but keep it cool.
THanks , steve

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[Chuckt]

youll get WAY better responses at www.mp3car.com since people there know everything about specs and all. your asking a car site about computers... i voted for logic btw

 

[STECARS]

Thanks , Chuck . I originally included yuor Pc also but i couldnt get all the specs , other than posted previuosly. I knew you'd be the first to check this out , and hopefully some others that posted in the other threads will too. Isnt the cases both the same as yours.?? Which comp do you think is closer to your and whats better or worse ? I know you know quite a bit about all this cumputer language.

 

[Chuckt]

it looks like the xenarc pc has a little bit different case. i also see that the motherboard is 2ghz but honestly, you wont need twice the porcessing speed the viam10000 offers with their 1ghz processor. i have 1ghz, 256mb ram, 250gb 7200rpm hdd and dvd rom and there isnt anything i would change in the comp i have. if you have the money i guess go for the xenarc but i dont think you need to have those specs for a carpc what will be for movies, music, and possably gps and datalogging.

 

[boostboyike1]

Tiger direct sells a very small pc for $450.Its called the mini book pc..and its about the size of a sega dreamcast.1 800 888 4437 is there number..Check it out!

 

[MaNGiNa24]

Build it all yourself.

Been contemplating the whole carpc for a while, but now I need one since my head unit just shit the bed.

I'm going with a Xenarc or Lilliput screen, opus 150 watt power supply, 120gb hd for movies/mp3, asus mobo, athlon mobile 2500 due to less voltage requirements, 256mb pc3200/400mhz, and 5.1 sound card.

A lot of people say the 1ghz processor that comes with most Epia mini-itx mobos are enough for what people need to do which in most cases it is, but I'm a computer nerd and I do other things as well as video, music, gps, dsmlink, and a few other things.

The 1ghz C3 is not at all comparable to a p4 1 ghz and if you want to actually multi-task (mp3 along with visualizations, datalog & dvd/divx or mp3, GPS & mp3/divx or dvd) the C3 is gonna lag a bit and I'm not too patient.

Since I'm eliminating the head unit competely, I'm also gonna go with a 4 channel amp.

Building the computer yourself will def be cheaper and it's really not that hard to do.

 

[Chuckt]

The 1ghz C3 is not at all comparable to a p4 1 ghz and if you want to actually multi-task (mp3 along with visualizations, datalog & dvd/divx or mp3, GPS & mp3/divx or dvd) the C3 is gonna lag a bit and I'm not too patient.

if you think about it tho, when your tuning or fixing something on your car running dsmlink, you wont want to be running mp3s or anything else. also when your playing movies or music, its the same thing. the p4 takes more power then the c3 i believe and thats why most people go for the c3 instead. When your running the pc, there isnt much need to multitask. my .02

 

[STECARS]

Yeah, i dont think so either. The only multitasks that i'll be doing is listening to music and playing games or listening to music and have my guages on display.

 

[MaNGiNa24]

if you think about it tho, when your tuning or fixing something on your car running dsmlink, you wont want to be running mp3s or anything else. also when your playing movies or music, its the same thing. the p4 takes more power then the c3 i believe and thats why most people go for the c3 instead. When your running the pc, there isnt much need to multitask. my .02

I def agree. For what most people do the c3 should be perfect. I'm just a computer nerd and would feel bad if I didn't go out with a full system, plus I have some parts laying around I can use.

For the power consumption, I'm not a big fan of p4's so I'm stickin with an athlon mobile and I'm gonna underclock it a lil bit due to heat and lower the core voltage to require less power. It all just depends on the power supply you use really. The opus is really one of the only ones that can survive the initial crank and it's also the only one that will turn itself on and off when it recognizes power but unfortunately, their largest size is an under rated 150 watt.

 

[STECARS]

SO this is my dream setup ( what i want to be able to do)

Mediacar
2- 7" zenarc tsv or lilliputs whatever one is better quality
rear view camera with a 7" lcd in place of mirror
Want to completely eliminate head unit.( not essential)
Control- bass , treble , subs, amps, and radio, etc...
Opus power supply
obd-II dataloging / Dsmlink
on-screen guages, speedo, tach , boost etc.........
play cds, dvd,radio,mp3's , stored files etc.....
Gps navigation
Hands free call phone
Play tuochscreen games

Will tghe Logic system be able to handle this ??

If not what all do I still have to get ???

 

[Redmachine]

I feel you should build it yourself costs a hell of alot less than 1400 dollars. A barebones set up is 200 bucks gut it add ram and a harddrive power supplies, and a dvd, glass everything yoursel and the lilliput and you are only at 800 bucks. That's what I'm doing
this guy here has a nice carputer and I don't think he spent anywhere close to 1400
http://web.njit.edu/~cas1383/proj/main/
click on his my car, and check it out

 

[Chuckt]

mine cost about 1100 including the 7"lilliput touchscreen, 250gb hdd, case, 1ghz processor, via m-1000 mobo, 256mb ram, and dvd cd rom. if you do your research enough, you can build one easily.