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LC-1 or LM-1 with E-manage and Greddy E-01 Boost

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Livid

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Feb 8, 2005
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I'm looking to purchase a Wideband o2 Sensor. I'm going with E-manage Ultimate for fuel management and the Greddy E-01 for my Boost Controller. I was wondering if I should get the Innovate LM-1 Wideband or if I could just use the LC-1 ? Thanks.
 
Livid said:
I'm looking to purchase a Wideband o2 Sensor. I'm going with E-manage Ultimate for fuel management and the Greddy E-01 for my Boost Controller. I was wondering if I should get the Innovate LM-1 Wideband or if I could just use the LC-1 ? Thanks.
WEll I"m not sure if the e01 can log the airfuel ratio from a different widebands or not, but thats probably where you'll have to find out if you need to spend the extra money.

I just went with the UEGO controller from AEM. But I haven't hooked up my emnage or e01 yet. So I couldn't tell you if you can log it too?
 
Livid said:
I'm looking to purchase a Wideband o2 Sensor. I'm going with E-manage Ultimate for fuel management and the Greddy E-01 for my Boost Controller. I was wondering if I should get the Innovate LM-1 Wideband or if I could just use the LC-1 ? Thanks.

You can use either, I have the PLX M-300 with the same setup on my car, you'd want to hookup the wideband to EMU if you want to use A/F maps for auto tunning. The E-01 doesn't work with EMU only the blue so you have three choices to connect it.

1 Windband direct to E-01 (Can display and log but not autotune)
2 Windband direct to EMU (Can log and autotune but not display)
3 Windband to E-01 then to EMU (Can log, display and autotune)

My wideband has a display so i connected it direct to EMU
 
Do you know if the Ultimate is that much better than the Blue to where I should get the Ultimate and not get the E-01? My car is a daily driver and I won't be doing much drag or racing with it.
 
the lc-1 comes with the lm-1. the lm-1 is the handheld logger. it works in conjunction with the lc-1 and the lma-3(multi input thing. rpm,tps,ect....) i would buy the lc-1 and the xd-1(gauge) and leave it at that. the lc-1 has 2 programable outputs so you can send a signal to both the emange and the e-01. i am assuming you are going to use the emanage to log so you have no need for the lm-1 or lma-3.
btw you can get the lc-1 with the xd-1 and o2 sensor for about 350 on ebay. i bought it a month ago and love it.
 
Livid said:
Do you know if the Ultimate is that much better than the Blue to where I should get the Ultimate and not get the E-01? My car is a daily driver and I won't be doing much drag or racing with it.

Well the biggest difference is the the EMU doesn't use airflow map for fuel adjustments like the blue EM does, You can add and remove fuel without changing airflow or timing.The EMU has a ton of new features but with either you'd still need the E-01 or some other type of boost control.
 
johnfsmith said:
Well the biggest difference is the the EMU doesn't use airflow map for fuel adjustments like the blue EM does, You can add and remove fuel without changing airflow or timing.The EMU has a ton of new features but with either you'd still need the E-01 or some other type of boost control.


The way to get around the the Emange blue chaning timing and airflow I believe is to install some kind of pressure switch so that when you hit boost, it tells the stock ecu that its at WOT no matter what you are doing and the ECU will pick its final map, and not try to change timing or fuel on its own. I'm still leaning this as well, but my tuning guy has been telling me thats the problem most people are having using the emange blue on Naturally Aspirated cars, that go turbo.
 
BigRand said:
The way to get around the the Emange blue chaning timing and airflow I believe is to install some kind of pressure switch so that when you hit boost, it tells the stock ecu that its at WOT no matter what you are doing and the ECU will pick its final map, and not try to change timing or fuel on its own. I'm still leaning this as well, but my tuning guy has been telling me thats the problem most people are having using the emange blue on Naturally Aspirated cars, that go turbo.

Well with the 4G63 no matter what you do with the blue the only way to remove fuel is to alter the airflow map which will change timing. This may be differnet on the 420. The EMU can add and remove with only the fuel map and not alter airflow map.
 
Livid said:
Ok, but will the EMU work with the E-01? Someone who posted earlier says the E-01 only works with the Blue?

I was also wondering if this kit would work with my E-manage and E01 or if I'de have to purchase anything else to adapt it..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Inno...43989QQitemZ4579317089QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

You can use the pressure sensor harness from the e-01 to EMU to provide pressure reading to EMU just like the blue but none of the emanage options on the e-01 will work.
 
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