Which is the best header???

miamieclipse · 12-27-2003, 03:02 PM

I kno im ###### the 500th person to ask this question, but im in the market to buy some Headers. I want to know which is the best header for my buck, ive researched the 4-2-1 design n the 4-1 design and i kno the differences between them n i wanna ask what do u guys have on, do u like it, what design is it, and how much did it cost??? i have heard both pro & con on pacesetter, ive heard good things about ssautochrome n my friend just told me that OBX isnt that good so i dunno what to get, if i could get a response id appreciate it. THanks!

98_silvergs · 12-27-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by miamieclipse
I kno im ###### the 500th person to ask this question, but im in the market to buy some Headers. I want to know which is the best header for my buck, ive researched the 4-2-1 design n the 4-1 design and i kno the differences between them n i wanna ask what do u guys have on, do u like it, what design is it, and how much did it cost??? i have heard both pro & con on pacesetter, ive heard good things about ssautochrome n my friend just told me that OBX isnt that good so i dunno what to get, if i could get a response id appreciate it. THanks!

First off, please re-write this in english.

Once you do, i'll gladly answer your question

Thanks

miamieclipse · 12-27-2003, 05:04 PM

sorry about that bro

My question is what headers do you guys have on your cars? I am looking to purchase headers and i want to know what is the best bang for the buck?

I have heard good & bad stuff about pacesetter, and i have seen this other company that is called ssautochrome and i am wondering if they are any good? Thanks

-Mike

98_silvergs · 12-27-2003, 05:16 PM

Much better

I have a HP Header 4-1 style and i'm very happy with it. A header for our 420A motor doesn't really serve that much of a purpose, so there's really no need to spend a shitload of money on an expensive one like Greddy. Plus the chrome look headers look like shit after a few days, they go from a shiny chrome to a chamaleon look.

So basically people say:

4-2-1 good low end power, but no top end
4-1 No low end power, but great top end

I personally didn't notice any loss with low end power when I installed my 4-1, but you do feel more power when cruising on the highway, not alot, but some.

Pacesetter is known for not fitting very great, plus they have a shitty finish on them, but you get what you pay for with them. They still work like every other header once fitted correctly.

I never heard of ssautochrome.

Good luck with your findings

miamieclipse · 12-27-2003, 05:29 PM

ive heard that sayin before, u get what u pay for lol.

http://www.ssautochrome.com/_estore/...ex=20&icQuery=

That is the site of the headers i was talkin about, altho ive seen them run on ebay for a bit less, i was origianlly thinkin pacesetter but i want somethin that will last, there is one in the parts catalouge on dsmtuners that is called New techonology i think, here is the link

http://www.dsmtuners.com/parts/default.php?cPath=86_95

Which one do u guys have on?? I'm not in a complete rush to get them but i would like to have them soon, thanks again

98_silvergs · 12-27-2003, 05:47 PM

I stated in my response that i have the HP 4-1 Header. I paid about 225$ and it works 100% No leaks, fitment was great and gave my exhaust a great tone. Mine is ceramic coated and came with a downpipe

Here is a pic

miamieclipse · 12-27-2003, 06:37 PM

thanks, i found an HP 4-2-1 design for 225$ but it dosent say if it comes w/ the downpipe or the gasket, where did u get yours from? THanks man if this one comes w/ the downpipe & gasket i will get these if not ill go with the ssautochrome, either way thank you for hte help

speedy13 · 12-27-2003, 07:31 PM

I have the ssautochrome headers and they work pretty good. they did loose their color but the performance gain was noticable. I lost a little low end but the rpms shoot up after 4000. i've had the for about a year and i had no problems with it.oh and they also came with the downpipe.

dr1665 · 12-27-2003, 07:53 PM

I have a used set of the Pacesetter 4-2-1s. They fit just fine for me. The finish is a bit less than fabulous, but I think if you saved money by buying a Pacesetter, then you could pop a couple bucks for ceramic coating. Then the header will perform better.

Eclipse96Ryder · 12-27-2003, 08:24 PM

hey man, i got the ones from ssautochrome. They are really nice, they change color, but they turn gold, lol, i think its look fricken sweet. Anyways i say go for them, it comes with a downpipe and the header for about 120 shipped. Cant get any better then that and they gave me a lil top end. I say go for, they look nice and are very inexpensive, and a good mod.

guedo512 · 12-27-2003, 11:06 PM

I have the greddy 4-2-1. i noticed a big gain, but i also have a high flow cat(test pipe). my header is nice in the picture, but now it is purple, blue, silver, gold. it did not turn black or crust up like some ive seen. greddy header comes with a down pipe, all you need is a gasket. i polish mine once a month so it looks fine.

>>Chop down that pic to post it, thanks.<<

miamieclipse · 12-28-2003, 12:25 PM

thanks everyone, i think im gonna go w/ the ssautochrome. im gonna start another forum for cam gears and pulleys or should we just continue on this one? Thanks again

Eclipse96Ryder · 12-29-2003, 04:45 PM

way to go with ssautochrome. you wont be dissapointed.

pulleys

get the AFX underdrive pulley. 120 new at howellautomotive.com
i got it on my car and its tyte as hell

cam gears....ummmmm, waste of money

UWISHWRX · 12-29-2003, 06:34 PM

personally i like greddy products. altough ive never had them on my car. ive only heard good things. does hks make headers?

everyone who gets headers on the wrx regrets it cause of the small power gain and u lose the "boxer rumble" becomes more like the "honda whine"

Dragon Talon · 12-29-2003, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by Eclipse96Ryder
way to go with ssautochrome. you wont be dissapointed.

pulleys

get the AFX underdrive pulley. 120 new at howellautomotive.com
i got it on my car and its tyte as hell

cam gears....ummmmm, waste of money

whats wrong with cam gears..???

Eclipse96Ryder · 12-30-2003, 12:52 AM

they dont give you any gain....it usually only helps on highly modified cars, i dont recommend them

miamieclipse · 12-30-2003, 09:10 AM

They won't help, u sure??? What about cam shafts, i have seen HKS Cam Shafts would these fit our n/a cars?

onepimpclipse · 12-30-2003, 09:46 AM

If you get cams it is a different story.

miamieclipse · 12-30-2003, 10:37 AM

what do u mean?

onepimpclipse · 12-30-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by miamieclipse
They won't help, u sure??? What about cam shafts, i have seen HKS Cam Shafts would these fit our n/a cars?

If you get cams it is a different story.

I mean cam gears are only useful if you have aftermarket cams.

Redmachine · 12-31-2003, 11:38 PM

The saying you get what you pay for is true to an extent. Look for a header with a thick flange and ceramic coat or armour coat. also I prefer studs in comparison to bolts, I haven't had any leak problems on any of the headers I have installed on my cars. A nice gasket goes a long way as well. But remember a nice set of headers for a v-8 cost 600-900 dollars, you have half of that so expect to pay half, anymore your buying a name.

miamieclipse · 01-01-2004, 12:55 PM

How thick of a flange r we talking about here? I am gonna purchase the ssautochrome, im going to quote what it says...

Includes:
Headers
Downpipe
Bolts for Downpipe
Complete Turn Key Set
Gasket Included

Huge Bore = Quality

100% Stainless High Quality Steel