Beginning mods

[Ra1n]

So here's what I plan to do first...

1. New exhaust
2. Cold air intake
3. New exhaust header

This seemed reasonable to start with and if anyone has a specific part they would recommend I'd be glad to hear it. Thanks guys

 

[tegster1]

Well, first off, why would you be doing any of these things if you have a turbo? Anyway...if you really dont have one and are just wishing for one (or something of that nature) you might as well leave it stock except maybe a short ram intake just because theyre cheap because all of those parts will be taken off except you could use the exhaust for a turbo project.

Assuming you are actually staying non-turbo or want it for another car...??? not sure, you should update your profile or explain the w/turbo part but are looking for non-turbo parts? Im confused but will answer those questions anyway.


1. A lot of n/t's go with the GST cat-back exhaust as it bolts right up or an N1 off ebay. Any GST exhaust cat-back will work.

2. Short ram from ebay, $20 or so, will yield you just as much as a cold air and you wont have to worry about sucking up water into your engine.

3. I personally have a DC-sports 4-2-1 header with a Magnaflow exhaust which I bought used. A 4-2-1 will be your best option for low-mid range power while the 4-1 are better up top. Keep in mind if you buy a header off ebay, the description might say its a 4-2-1 but really its a 4-1.

 

[Diamondrev]

Cheap Prices on EBAY!! Do you have Two DSM's?? your profile says your eclipse is turbo...

 

[Ra1n]

I clicked the wrong option for the turbo in my profile sorry for the confusion...yeah I was considering the short ram but there was talk that the cold air was better. I'll check on ebay and see what's up and post what I decide on

 

[Ra1n]

Yeah, my goal is to have a turbo charged 420a. So, need to just worry about my exhaust and check into turbo kits or build one?

 

[tegster1]

Well if you want a turbo now, then dont worry about getting an exhaust either...I would just leave everything the way it is. You can do other mods such as a short shifter if you have a manual. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE mine and its one of the B&M knock-offs and fit perfect and even looks real. Look into other mods where you can keep even when you go turbo such as a short shifter and symborski shift kit.

 

[DSMJake]

Get a short ram the cold air intake sucks colder air and might get 2 more hp then the short ram if that but with the short ram you dont run the risk of hydro locking. Im also switching to short ram when i bought my 420a it had a CAI already on it. just my .02 cents

 

[Locke]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/dsm...red-questions/272662-first-modifications.html

 

[Locke]

Get a short ram the cold air intake sucks colder air and might get 2 more hp then the short ram if that but with the short ram you dont run the risk of hydro locking. Im also switching to short ram when i bought my 420a it had a CAI already on it. just my .02 cents

There is a trick to not hydrolocking your car when using a CAI - it would seem that it's esoteric knowledge, though.

Don't drive through water that might submerge your filter.

I know we all have those urges to test if our vehicle is actually amphibious, but resist temptations to wade the vehicle across rivers, or to use it as a submersible while exploring ship-wrecks.

 

[tegster1]

haha Locke

Ive always wondered if my car could fly but that doesnt mean I am going to drive off a cliff.

 

[Diamondrev]

you would need a ricer spoiler first tegster1.. hahaha

 

[DSMJake]

I was stating the pros and cons to him.

 

[tegster1]

Thats easily accomplished. Its the jet engine that might be a little hard to come by...and getting it to fit.

 

[JMiller]

I ran a cold air intake(On my RS) that i got off eBay for 40 dollars shipped that was lower than my front bumper and it was a very noticable diffrence over the stock intake.(Never hydrolocked) I would suggest getting some type of intake and maybe a 2.5 inch catback, that is if you want to use a 2.5 inch downpipe whenever you turbo it. Or just wait and get a full 3 inch exhaust. Thats my .02.

 

[Locke]

I was stating the pros and cons to him.

Yeah, you're absolutely right too - the slight possible gain in power may not be worth the increased rick of hydro-lock to most people.

But just for the hell of it, I'll add;

The bottom of my filter sits about 7" off the road surface. I don't drive through anything but the smallest puddles, and it seldom gets even damp. The real reason I purchased a CAI over a SRI - I saved $2. The CAI happened to be the absolute cheapest intake I could find. For me, that $2 savings was worth the overrated possibility of hydro-lock.

 

[Diamondrev]

1- SRI
2- Ebay headers (BBP)
3- Ebay Cat-back
4- High flow cat or test pipe
5- OBX IM and Mpx 60mm throttle body
6- UDP

pretty much everything else is internal work.. good luck man..

 

[rstare]

There is a trick to not hydrolocking your car when using a CAI - it would seem that it's esoteric knowledge, though.

Don't drive through water that might submerge your filter.

I know we all have those urges to test if our vehicle is actually amphibious, but resist temptations to wade the vehicle across rivers, or to use it as a submersible while exploring ship-wrecks.

Wow, you crack me up man...
My filter also sits about 7" off the ground, I have had it get wet due to rain, but never have I had hydro lock. Imo hyrdo lock issue is way overrated, as long as your not a idiot. Dont drive though rivers like Locke said.
(I believe there is already a big thread on this, so enough said.)

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-bolt-tech/300081-cold-air-intake-question.html

OP, Either way if your going turbo, just dont even bother getting a intake.

 

[Sean15]

A simple way to avoid Hydro-lock is not to run WOT while it's raining or going through puddles. If your not at WOT your engine won't suck hard enough to pull enough water into the engine to do any damage.

I've never found it any fun to stand on it in the rain unless i'm in an under powered rear drive car/truck.

 

[95 'clipse RS]

Yeah, you're absolutely right too - the slight possible gain in power may not be worth the increased rick of hydro-lock to most people.

But just for the hell of it, I'll add;

The bottom of my filter sits about 7" off the road surface. I don't drive through anything but the smallest puddles, and it seldom gets even damp. The real reason I purchased a CAI over a SRI - I saved $2. The CAI happened to be the absolute cheapest intake I could find. For me, that $2 savings was worth the overrated possibility of hydro-lock.

i just thought id add to the CAI topic as well. mine too sits just about 6in off the road surface. but when in a good rain, due to water getting kicked up from the cars in front of me, i have gotten some water in. not enough to hydrolock the engine, but enough to make it stall, and then cranking it for 10 seconds half throttle to get it started again, then a nice big cloud of steam pours out of the exhaust for 5 seconds or so. even still i have not taken it off, i just try not to drive too close to people now. but i do like steam cleaning my combustion chambers now and then

 

[rstare]

i just thought id add to the CAI topic as well. mine too sits just about 6in off the road surface. but when in a good rain, due to water getting kicked up from the cars in front of me, i have gotten some water in. not enough to hydrolock the engine, but enough to make it stall, and then cranking it for 10 seconds half throttle to get it started again, then a nice big cloud of steam pours out of the exhaust for 5 seconds or so. even still i have not taken it off, i just try not to drive too close to people now. but i do like steam cleaning my combustion chambers now and then

The only time I have experienced water getting into the cylinder, was in a truck. My friend just washed it (his engine and I didnt know about that) and then he wanted to go for a ride. Turns out the plastic pipe came off after the filter and water was going straight into the throttle body. It boged down real bad, and practically stalled. But in about 15 seconds it ran fine.

 

[95 'clipse RS]

The only time I have experienced water getting into the cylinder, was in a truck. My friend just washed it (his engine and I didnt know about that) and then he wanted to go for a ride. Turns out the plastic pipe came off after the filter and water was going straight into the throttle body. It boged down real bad, and practically stalled. But in about 15 seconds it ran fine.

thats pretty funny. it seems like the only thing that will happen is that you'll stall. if that. i would still recommend getting a CAI to anyone that is NOT going to be rallying their car through huge puddles in the rain, or submerging their filter under water.