i am not driving my girlfriends corolla again!!!!

[angry eclipse]

over the past week my oil light has popped on/off at least three times and last nite there was a tapping noise under the hood. this morning its louder. what the ###? i ain't driving it until i have an idea of what it is and how to fix it. one thread said collapsed lifter or rod bearing. another said oil pump sending unit. i'm not THAT mechanically inclined and i'm NOT takin my baby to SATAN to get raped when i know somebody here can help. does somebody in the milwaukee area who knows these cars need money? well I need my car fixed because this is NOT the way to start my summer and i'm NOT driving my girlfriend's "Horolla"................again. it was embarassing enough the first time.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Thead moved.

 

[rs_smoked_you]

ok check you oil level. it sounds like you have lifter tick, that happens when your oil level is too low.

 

[MrBoxx]

angry_eclipse: I work tomorrow at Checker from 10-5. If you have any free time, come in and see me. Also, if you work this Saturday, I can visit you and maybe give my $.02 on the issue.

 

[shiftdrift06]

waitwait, does she have AE86?? You can go practice your touge drifting!! . Try to pinpoint the noise, and make sure you have oil.

 

[BigRand]

Oil level, and what kind of oil have u been using? Much less when was the last time it was changed?

Better figure that stuff out first. Sounds like an easy fix right, and hopefully it didn't do anything else to the motor.

 

[angry eclipse]

well......my dumb ass switched to sytec on my last oil change, and from what dsmnick(milwaukee) told me, when i did that the synthetic oil basically leaked/got around the seals which explained all the consumption. i confirmed this while changing my pcv and yep, there were traces of oil in the line. i feel like such a dumb blond. everytime i checked my oil, i never gave it enough time to drop to the bottom so i NEVER got a proper reading.

 

[angry eclipse]

regardless, nick has an extra top end of his last motor so i just have figure out if its the rocker arm, lifters, the valves, whatever. he's got my part and, apparently, ya'll got my back! keep you posted. and uhh, sorry about posting two threads. i got a little anxious.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

well......my dumb ass switched to sytec on my last oil change, and from what dsmnick(milwaukee) told me, when i did that the synthetic oil basically leaked/got around the seals which explained all the consumption. i confirmed this while changing my pcv and yep, there were traces of oil in the line. i feel like such a dumb blond. everytime i checked my oil, i never gave it enough time to drop to the bottom so i NEVER got a proper reading.

What? WTF

Synthetic oil doesn't make your engine leak, and there should "oil" in the PCV hoses; it's called blowback. The PCV system uses engine vacuum to remove the stuff from the crankcase: that's the whole point of the system. Blowback residue looks like a nasty mixture of gas and oil, but can be confused for pure motor oil to the untrained eye. The point is, though, that it's supposed to be there. It's presence doesn't confirm or deny any problems you may have suspected.

Finally, what do you mean you never dropped the bottom? You never dropped the bottom end? The oil pan? The oil drain plug? I don't understand...

You're going to have to be more clear in your posts in order for any of us to help you.

 

[Blitzeclips]

From the sounds of it, i THINK he's refferring to his oil pan..

 

[angry eclipse]

What? WTF

Finally, what do you mean you never dropped the bottom? You never dropped the bottom end? The oil pan? The oil drain plug? I don't understand...

You're going to have to be more clear in your posts in order for any of us to help you.

ok. when you check your oil after driving it, you're supposed to give it enough time to drain back down so that you can get a proper reading on your dip stick, right? well I would shut the car off, i would get out and check it. that's it.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

ok. when you check your oil after driving it, you're supposed to give it enough time to drain back down so that you can get a proper reading on your dip stick, right? well I would shut the car off, i would get out and check it. that's it.

Oh... ok, I see what you're saying now. I usually just start it up, let it idle for a minute or two, then turn it off and measure the oil level.

 

[angry eclipse]

cool. well today i took the valve cover off to see if there was some OBVIOUS damage to my untrained eyes. not really. had lunch and a vodka lemonade and poof, this is similar to what i found. this pic came from a thread i found. his damaged area appears to be gashes whereas mine look like a whole series of VISIBLE vertical lines on all of the lobes(if thats the proper name).

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[angry eclipse]

ooh boy. going by all the threads i've read, it might be a good idea for me to remove the oil pan and check for bits of metal. oh God i hope i didn't crankwalk her. time for a drink.

 

[angry eclipse]

.........fried the piston rings after the oil pump died. as much as it will cost to fix the problem, i might as well buy a used engine. anybody have one or know somebody that does? yup, i'm gonna need a little luck and prayer for this one.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

oh God i hope i didn't crankwalk her.

Crankwalk is a 4G63 problem; it's pretty much unheard of with 420As.

How soon will you need this new block? I might be able to set you up with my old block after I swap my new engine in next week.

 

[angry eclipse]

whew. about mid-august. i'm starting a new job this month which will allow a lot more money to do this as well as other things. i take it that the soon to be old engine is bone stock. how many miles and how much you want sir? ............please, be gentle

 

[talonTSIDriver]

you can have crankwalk on ANY engine of any type. But on the 7 bolt turbo'd DSM it is just more likely to happen due to the incorrect machining on the 7 bolt block where the thrust bearings are. what probably did happen though is he through a rod bearing or something, that or broke parts of the piston off which i have done twice before.

good luck with the engine swap. That or just build your engine up with some fresh forged internals.

 

[XMasta19]

Sure crankwalk "can" happen on any motor, but you're prone to it and we never see it. I guess by threw, you're referring to a spun rod bearing which is always a possibility. Breaking parts off pistons doesn't really happen unless you're throwing boost at our stock bottom end which can result in worn piston rings and eventual cracked ringlands.

When checking oil, it should optimally be at normal operating temperature. So the car should be warm, whether you just finished driving or let it idle for a few minutes, then yes shut off and give a minute or two for the oil to settle back down in the crankcase.

 

[angry eclipse]

.........fried the piston rings after the oil pump died. as much as it will cost to fix the problem, i might as well buy a used engine. anybody have one or know somebody that does?

uhh gentlemen. it's not a turbo. basic 420a. thanks for the input, but i'm already working on locating another engine. should and when i find a GSt next year, i'll be at you. carry on gentlemen.

 

[XMasta19]

...starved of oil, w00t w00t

Good luck getting another motor and back on the road.

 

[96gsdsm]

well......my dumb ass switched to sytec on my last oil change, and from what dsmnick(milwaukee) told me, when i did that the synthetic oil basically leaked/got around the seals which explained all the consumption. i confirmed this while changing my pcv and yep, there were traces of oil in the line. i feel like such a dumb blond. everytime i checked my oil, i never gave it enough time to drop to the bottom so i NEVER got a proper reading.

Hello everyone ... I would be "dsmnick(milwaukee)" .

For the record:I stated that synthetic oil has a greater tendency to seep past old seels and gaskets. And hey blondie when did I say anything about your PCV?

You gotta quit that drinking

Anyways, point of my post was that we figured out that the oil pump is bad ... accidentally ... I told AngryEclipse to crank the motor (with the valve cover off) to get some compression readings ... now ... I should have gotten a face full of 10w30 ... and rightfully so ... but instead I didn't figure it out till 1 strange bubbly oil noise and 3 cyclinders later.

My guess ... oil pump went and fried the rings.

Compression was garbage ... 1 capfull of oil later it was wonderful.

hoped all that helped ... even If for nothing other then closure