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420a for 4G63 swap in 2nd gen RS

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HondaHunter2002

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a friend of mine has a 2g eclipse rs and he wants to do an engine swap in for a 4g63 motor and convert it to manual.. he was just wondering how much it would cost and lookin what kinda parts he was gonna need to do this.. he wants to fine tune his fine lookin eclipse but he hasn't the first clue what has to be done for this swap.. is he better off swappin in a 4g63n/t or 4g63 turbo from a 2nd gen.. i didn't know what to tell him so i'm gonna give him the link to this thread and just let all you guys blow up on this thread and tell him what you think he should do.. AND SELLIN THE CAR FOR A MANUAL OR A TURBO IS NOT AN OPTION SO PLEASE DONT LAY THAT DOWN IN THIS THREAD..
THANKS GUYS:dsm:
 
Sell it and get a gs-t if he wants to do that (coming from a 420a owner)

You can do it. You can pretty much swap in anything for the money. NOTHING IS THE SAME besides the oil cap. Havn't you read enough threads about this. I wish I could delete this.

He wants a price though. $6k bone stock FWD 210 hp.
 
did i not say in the thread above sellin is not an option.. and what's up with you and always sayin i wish i could delete this thread.. if your gonna give negative feedback don't give ne man.. this thread ain't for me i don't own a 420a it is meant for you guys to direct yoru comments to him.. he won't sell his car either he sank too much into the exterior and rims and exhaust and all that stuff already.. and will the 4G63 TURBO fit or will it need mods?? reply as if your talkin to him i'm just tryin to give a friend a hand not to get flamed just for askin for a little help on a tuner webpage.. if i'm gonna get flamed at just for tryin to give someone a hand that may god strike me dead. now can someone please do me a favour and answer the question correctly
 
my personal preference is leaning towards STAR. but I dont have te 2,900 to get it *yet*

STARs numbers seem to be more realistic, while Im sure HAHNs numbers are valid , I think they are geared more towards a race tuned car and not a car that just had the turbo applied.
 
But alot of people are saying that the people at STAR are so hard to get in touch with that they would rather go with HAHN because of there awsome tech support?

But if u know alot already then you wont need tech support but if your me well....
 
Star is coming out with a new manifold and intercooler soon too. If you can somehow get a hold of Wyatt he may be able to fill you in more.

There is a hrc vs star thread a few down also you may want to look at.

*I say I want to delete this because of the duplicate threads even on page 1 and I find myself repeating myself*

I also said to sell because realistically SELLING the car and buying a gs-t IS MORE REALISITC than swapping engines/trannies/everything. Just tryin to get the point accross.
 
Ok bro just drop the whole idea about an engine swap. Anyone who wants to swap a 4g63 into a non turbo is either stupid or has way to much money...IMO. You would have to fab up all kinds of parts and it would really suck. That being said here is my 2 cents. The hann kit may have superior tech support but all the support you need is at www.2gnt.com there are many hann and star guy's out there as well as new edge racing turbo kit owners. www.turbogs.com is wyatt's site. www.hannracecraft.com is hann's. I have a turbo comparisson done by skrilla on these 2 kits. If you want it let me know I'll shoot it across. The only thing I would give hann the edge over star with would be availability. If you have any technical problems or questions you can ask the members at 2gnt, However if your product is screwed up or something then thats a whole different ball game. I went with star because it will work better for my goals. I would reccomend a stage 2 turbo kit with proper supporting fuel mods to turn the boost to 10psi for a good start. I would put the kit on first at about 8psi to get used to it and learn a turbo motor(I would also reccomend reading the entire turbo section of 2gnt.com to see what your really dealing with) then turn up the boost. At some point after that (could be years could be days depending on how you do things) your engine will be ready for a rebuild then drop in the forged pistons ang give everybody hell. if you check down the page here there is a little rant I made on a thread posted by hlude97 or something like that. It outlines in partial depth what a build up of a 420a might cost if you do everything right the first time. Sorry this is so long but it's alot of info.
 
just buy a turbo kit. my star stage 2 just came in and i got it from wyatt. if you think hes hard to get a hold of just leave a message and he will get back to you. you will see hes not so hard to get a hold of.
 
Kirby said:
Ok bro just drop the whole idea about an engine swap. Anyone who wants to swap a 4g63 into a non turbo is either stupid or has way to much money...IMO. You would have to fab up all kinds of parts and it would really suck. That being said here is my 2 cents. The hann kit may have superior tech support but all the support you need is at 2GNT.com - index there are many hann and star guy's out there as well as new edge racing turbo kit owners. www.turbogs.com is wyatt's site. www.hannracecraft.com is hann's. I have a turbo comparisson done by skrilla on these 2 kits. If you want it let me know I'll shoot it across. The only thing I would give hann the edge over star with would be availability. If you have any technical problems or questions you can ask the members at 2gnt, However if your product is screwed up or something then thats a whole different ball game. I went with star because it will work better for my goals. I would reccomend a stage 2 turbo kit with proper supporting fuel mods to turn the boost to 10psi for a good start. I would put the kit on first at about 8psi to get used to it and learn a turbo motor(I would also reccomend reading the entire turbo section of 2gnt.com to see what your really dealing with) then turn up the boost. At some point after that (could be years could be days depending on how you do things) your engine will be ready for a rebuild then drop in the forged pistons ang give everybody hell. if you check down the page here there is a little rant I made on a thread posted by hlude97 or something like that. It outlines in partial depth what a build up of a 420a might cost if you do everything right the first time. Sorry this is so long but it's alot of info.
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Thank you Kirby. This is not TOO MUCH info. This helps alot. I am just tired of hearing about how pathetic and 2nd rate we 420A owners are. Since there seems to be more of us than than the 4G63 owners off this forum.
Don't get me wrong, I behold the 4G63, the GS-T is a dream car of mine, non available to me that isn't rusted or molested beyond return.
 
I think this is awesome. I challenge any eager 420a owner to go ahead and swap it out for a 4g63. That is a build I will subscribe to!!!
 
^ Find one of these wrecked, then procede to swap every part of the drive train out, then it's possible to put one in a GS/RS, Outlander etc...

The swap is made easier due to the fact the Transmission and engine Orientation is the same as an RS/GS consider going RWD for even more ridiculous fun.
 
Theres a thread floating around on either 2gnt or dsmtalk about the evo 8 swap into an RS/GS. The motor and transmission face the same way, but i believe you need to create stronger trans and motor mounts to hold the extra power if your building the motor. Then it also said you could use an evo 8 wiring harness, or a 97 GST wiring harness. Not sure if this build was ever finished, or was ever real.:hmm:
 
ohTONYoh said:
Theres a thread floating around on either 2gnt or dsmtalk about the evo 8 swap into an RS/GS. The motor and transmission face the same way, but i believe you need to create stronger trans and motor mounts to hold the extra power if your building the motor. Then it also said you could use an evo 8 wiring harness, or a 97 GST wiring harness. Not sure if this build was ever finished, or was ever real.:hmm:
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You would need an evo donor car, and at that rate why not just fix the evo. The best option probably is an 00-05 RS/GS drivetrain and 97-99 gst harness/ecu. This limits you to sohc unless one can find an evo 8 head, but a far cheaper swap than a dsm 4g63.
 
Anything is possible with the right tools, knowledge, and enough time. I likke the idea for a 63 swap in any other car but ones that came with it as a factory option. Personally, im fighting in my head over doing a 280zx engine swap to one of my dizzums.
 
HondaHunter2002 said:
a friend of mine has a 2g eclipse rs and he wants to do an engine swap in for a 4g63 motor and convert it to manual.. he was just wondering how much it would cost and lookin what kinda parts he was gonna need to do this.. he wants to fine tune his fine lookin eclipse but he hasn't the first clue what has to be done for this swap.. is he better off swappin in a 4g63n/t or 4g63 turbo from a 2nd gen.. i didn't know what to tell him so i'm gonna give him the link to this thread and just let all you guys blow up on this thread and tell him what you think he should do.. AND SELLIN THE CAR FOR A MANUAL OR A TURBO IS NOT AN OPTION SO PLEASE DONT LAY THAT DOWN IN THIS THREAD..
THANKS GUYS:dsm:
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** OK let me start by saying it took longer than the shop expected and every few weeks they came back to me for more cash:banghead:, I have a complete swap drives and sounds great, I need to complete the exhaust system and the interior and body work to fit my vison. I just bout a house and stopped working on my project. I will post some pics

This was to have been delived to me ready to rock as a daily driver with a
GT35R turbo kit but the shop really dropped the ball and I took it w/ a stock turbo ... it has CAI, FMIC, Magnus intake manifold, shorty radiator, and thats about it.
 
so basically, you spent alot of money and hassle to have a modded GST..with a 420a vin.. LOL.
when you coulda had the exact same thing for cheaper and less hassle.. smh

This swap is pointless when the car (gst/x) is readily available..
 
That too could be said, ... trust me if I could have done it different I would have, ... but then again I have a hard time justifing any mods to a daily, but we do them any ways and enjoy every minute of the sounds of money leaking out of the wallet. I have a 2011 Tundra that I am playing with the idea of a twin turbo set up LOL. Its all good one day I will have a garage full of one offs and my heart will be happy and I will spend my days there when I die like some sort of Tuner Mummy
 
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