[RESOLVED] Transmissions (bar codes, serial numbers)

Posted by Cesar, Apr 1, 2004
Drivetrain Tech - 4G63 transmission, clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, gears, differentials, transfer case, shifter, etc.

  1. Cesar

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    Well,
    I performed a quick search and I was not satisfied with the results. I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in helping me out. You see I'm in the middle of performing a tranny swap, and I would like to know how to distinguish trannies through serial numbers or bar codes. This is what I got so far, but this is of the net so, I'm not sure whether it's correct.
    89-90 w5m33-2 npzs awd turbo
    91-94 w5m33-2-npxv awd turbo

    If you would like to contribute, all you have to do is look under your hood, the dsm label with all your vehicle information on it (if it's still clear). Just post the model of the transmission , it's the third row. (assuming you haven't already performed a swap)(don't forget to post the vehicle info).
    Unless you have a repair manual with all the numbers already in them, that would be alot easier.
    Thanks for your time.
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    Despite the hazards of the web, I think these specs are going to be as accurate as can be found (almost at the bottom of the page):

    http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/answers-specifications.htm
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    Yeah, I've already seen those....thanks
    I was hoping on having it a little more accurate. I want to be able to tell the differences between the different w5m33 trannys. Specially the 2g.
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    Transmission type is W5M33 (KM225) for the Evo 1 and W5M33-2-UPYE for the Evo 2 and Evo 3.

    http://www.lancerregister.com/art_evo1to3guide.php
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    http://www.hughdepayen.net/artman/publish/printer_evoIIspecs.shtml

    Evo 2
    Transmission

    Gearbox Type: 5 Manual
    Ratio : Final Drive: 5.433
    Ratio : Reverse: 3.166
    Ratio : 1st: 2.750
    Ratio : 2nd: 1.684
    Ratio : 3rd: 1.160
    Ratio : 4th: 0.862
    Ratio : 5th: 0.617

    Think outside the box...
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    All of this info has been copied and pasted from GalantVr4.org into this document. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of it. Sorry for the way its organized, but I wanted it to be the same way it was originally authored.


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    what are the specs of the W5M33-2MMZL tranny? I got this in my car right now, tranny shop put it in 2yrs ago. had to change the shifter input shaft, the other one was shorter or something and they had to take the counter weight off. I have the serial number also if that helps.

    Thanks,
    Kendel

    Model# W5M33-2MMZL
    Serial# TV3638
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    if its been in there for 2 years, why question it now?

    the only way to know the ratios for sure is to crack it open.
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    why not question it, if its wrong or could cause more of a problem, I can get rid of it while its on my work bench not in the car.

    Plus I wanted to know more info about this model tranny since its not a normal tranny for this car.
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    the only thing that could cause a problem is the front diff ratio not matching the the t case causing the front wheels to rotate at a different speed than the rear.

    where did you get the tranny from? if you are sure its a jdm, then it could be anything.
    the code you posted is nothing close to the others in this thread.


    have you tried searching the WWW?
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    yes tried searching the web, called magnus motorsports they couldn't help me. Now I have a email in to john at shepracing.com to help me figure this out.


    I belive it to be a JDM tranny becuase someone has mentioned a EvoIII or RVR tranny in a few posts, but there are only 3 post about this model number.
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    I've asked him before about jdm tranny's. he said they could be anything. he recommended finding a local one, that way you knew what you were getting. what is a RVR?


    where did you find these posts?
    mind posting links?
    anyway, i don't know what that is....post anything that you find.
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    [​IMG]

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    Thats all the info I found from now from DSMTalk.com and the reason I said the mini-van tranny or evoIII tranny is because when I searched the model number of the tranny, someone had posted that as a answer on DSMTuner.com.

    But thats still good info above.

    :thumb:
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    I called tigerjapanese and after a couple days they finally called Japan and the answer is MNZL= 96 Galant RVR which they claim shares the same drivetrain as an evo 3, but all in all now we know.
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    "The Mitsubishi RVR is a compact MPV produced by Mitsubishi Motors between February 1991 and 2000. It was known in Europe as the Mitsubishi Space Runner and Mitsubishi Expo LRV in the United States, while export markets in Asia and Oceania used the original Japanese name. The RVR had also been sold by Chrysler as the Dodge/Plymouth Colt Vista and Eagle Summit Wagon captive imports in North America.

    The top models used the drivetrain of the first Mitsubishi Galant VR-4; a 4G63T 2.0 L 16V DOHC turbo mated to either a four-speed auto or a five speed manual. Open front and rear differentials were used. Power output is rated at 170 kW (230 PS)."
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    I joined the evocrew.com forum and finally I found the truth about RVR and EVO's, the RVR is a beautiful cousin of the colt awd and shares the drivetrain. The MMZL is for the RVR and is the same as the evo 3, the early RVR's had no LSD in the rear but the newer gear sports has and lsd. So the diff between the two is LSD.
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    GearBox Code Vehicle Front LSD Ratio
    W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ?

    W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ?

    W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ?

    W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ?

    W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545

    W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ?

    W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ?

    W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545

    W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR, stronger box, dbl syncro 2nd Yes 3.545

    W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545

    W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909

    W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909

    W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909

    W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ?

    W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909

    W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ?

    W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909

    W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909

    W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909

    W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909

    found this in another thread
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    I found an even better decoding information! Of all places, it was on Belarus Mitsu forum :) Fortunatley, they talk Russian, so I was able to translate it. Here is the original source:

    Mitsubishi Club Belarus :: Ïðîñìîòð òåìû - Íà êàêîé àâòî óòàíàâëèâàëàñü êîðîáêà W5M33-2?

    There are still a lot of question marks, but this is the first time that I have seen it decoded letter by letter. I think that we should be able to complete this puzzle :)

    Anyway, this is what they had to say:

    Last 4 Letters on the transmission code:

    1st letter – Final Drive Ratio

    N = 3.545 ratio
    W = 3.909 ratio

    2nd letter – gear ratios

    O = dunno ratio?
    P = dunno ratio?
    Q = close ratio?
    R = wide ratio?

    3rd Letter – Front Differential

    B = open front diff
    F = ?
    G = ?
    W = viscous front LSD
    X = ?
    Y = open
    Z = ?

    4th Letter – Type of car it was used on. (Mounting locations?)
    D = CB Lancer
    E = CC Lancer
    K = HH/HJ Galant
    M = Galant
    S = 89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd
    T = DSM G2
    V = 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94


    Front LSD uses a different crownwheel, and a longer drivers side inner
    CV joint

    A few examples:

    _GearBox Code___Vehicle.................................. ................................... Front LSD.......... Ratio
    W5M33-2-MUZT.....Eclipse AWD 5spd turbo mfg 7/96-end
    W5M33-2-NGRE.....Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc)
    w5m33-2-NNXL.....Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 6/92-2/94
    w5m33-2-NNXZ.....Expo 2.4 AWD non-turbo 5spd mfg 5/91-5/92
    W5M33-2-NNZT.....95? Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 [not sure about this one]
    W5M33-2-NOBE.....Lancer GSR 3.545 no LSD
    W5M33-2-NPXV.....91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94
    W5M33-2-NPZS.....89-90 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 1/89-6/90 [change shift linkage]
    W5M33-2-NPZT.....95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96
    W5M33-2-NQBE.....Libero/Lancer Gsr 1.8rs, non lsd version of NRWE........No................3.545
    W5M33-2-NQBK.....1991-92 to 4/92 Galant VR4/Eterna ZR-4
    W5M33-2-NQBM.....Eterna ZR-4 1990, Galant VR4 to 5/92
    W5M33-2-NQXV.....Sheriot 4wd, 1990, 4G63t
    W5M33-2-NQZS.....Eclipse GSR-4 (Japan) вып. 09/89-12/90, код MD995574
    W5M33-2-NRBE......92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd..........No................3.545
    W5M33-2-NRWE.....92-95 Lancer GSR, stronger box, dbl syncro 2nd..........Yes...............3.545
    W5M33-2-NRXD.....1990 Cyborg hatch (4WD) .............................................No... .............3.545
    W5M33-2-UPFE......Evo3 RS with front LSD............................................... ...Yes................3.909
    W5M33-2-UPGE......Evo3 GSR non LSD .................................................. ......No................3.909
    W5M33-2-UPWE.....Evo3 GSR with front LSD ..............................................Yes. ..............3.909
    W5M33-2-UPYE......Evo 2 и Evo 3 RS non LSD ..............................................No.. ..............3.909
    W5M33-2-WNZT.....95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd - ?
    W5M33-2-WPBV.....Eclipse AWD АТМОСФЕРНЫЙ "европеец".
    W5M33-2-WPFE.....Evo2 RS with front LSD .................................................Y es...............3.909
    W5M33-2-WPGE....Evo2 GSR non LSD .................................................. .......No.................3.909
    W5M33-2-WPVF.....Cordia GSR - 4WD (Galant VR4 E84A ? твин турбо).......No.................3.909
    W5M33-2-WPWE....Evo2 GSR with front LSD ...............................................Yes ...............3.909
    W5M33-2-WPYE.....Evo2 RS non LSD .................................................. .........No.................3.909
    W5M33-2-WQFE.....Evo1 RS with front LSD............................................... ...Yes...............3.909
    W5M33-2-WQFK....Galant VR4 evo ? ?
    W5M33-2-WQGE....Evo1 GSR non LSD .................................................. .......No.................3.909
    W5M33-2-WQNK....Galant VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? ..................................No.............. ...3.909
    W5M33-2-WQWE...92-93 Evo1 GSR (and RS?) (viscous front LSD) (3.909)
    W5M33-2-WQYE.....Evo1 RS non LSD .................................................. .........No.................3.909

    W5M33 - C5TPH = 1988 Galant VR4, Open Front Diff, 3.545 Ratio
    4G63 (DOHC 16v) + KM-206 Transmissions 89-92 Galant, Eagle 2000 GTX, 92 Colt Turbo

    c50ph -> is the switchable tranny (2wd/4wd)
    c51ph -> if for the 88-89 JDM VR4 (early GVR4s) and select foreign market (a specimen was reported in Australia for example) GVR4s
    From my friends with a switchable 2WD->4WD JDM Galant trans that I would LOVE to get a hold of:
    C5OPH-EK1420 or C5JPF-FL8420
    See JDM FWD/AWD Switchable Tranny for more details.

    W5M33 2NQBK and under that it reads KD6377 -1990 Mitsubishi Eterna ZR-4
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    gear box code w5m332mmzl [Archive] - 4GTuner

    redrvr27-11-2008, 12:11 PM
    I know this is an old thread but thought I could finish it.

    I have this box in my 94 turbo ssg rvr. Its 3.545 final drive


    This guy confirmed that the final drive is a 3.5 for the MMZL model.
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    I have never heard this mentioned before, but I found some interesting facts about my 93 Summit AWD transmission. Externally, it looks like a 2G tranny, but bell housing has extra bell housing boss to mount to an extra boss on the 2.4 motor.

    On the inside, I found that viscous coupling is about 1/3 smaller than a DSM VC!!! To make it work, the output shaft from the center diff is also smaller (the rest of the center diff is the same as DSM). But there is another visual hint which I never noticed before, the outer cover is actually smaller!!! If you try to put in DSM VC, the Summit/LRV cover will not fit over it!

    I never thought that Mitsu would make these small changes, but obviously I was wrong...

    I will report if I find any other differences.
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    What are the gear ratios for 1st through 5th?

    I am trying to figure out what top speed would be at 7000rpm in 5th gear

    I have this MMZL trans in my 91 talon awd
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    what are the auto codes???
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    the codes are on the bellhousing itself. Which models are you referring to?
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    W5m332umxl
    up6554

    Anyone?
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