Evo3 big 16g question

[talon187]

how much whp is it rated for ? i want to make around 400-450 whp if this turbo can't do that can you guys give me some options? i don't want to spend more then 600 for a turbo thanks

 

[Denji]

The evo III 16g is rated at 380 hp and 550cfm. A larger turbo would probably be better for you, however, at that price range you may have a hard time with a setup, is that price just for the turbo itself or for the turbo plus installation accessories (i.e. oil feed lines etc.). I find it better for most people if they make a targe 1/4 mile time than a hp range, max power isnt everything.

 

[talon187]

i want to be able run high 12s possibly low 11s whats the most boost the evo3 16g turbo can handle is 20psi to much?

 

[Tom N]

High12s to low 11s is a big gap.
You can make just over 400hp with a evo316g with the right parts and tunning tools. And that is good for high 11`s in a full weight car.
It can handle alot more than 20psi.

 

[Jetblack]

The Evo III is not an easy turbo to get you to low 12's much less high 11's. It takes great tuning, race gas and excellent driving. I've been trying for 2 years to break into the 12's but of course sporadically. A bigger turbo will get you there easier in my opinion.

 

[Tom N]

It does not take race gas.
It takes a well built car using good parts and good tunning.

 

[talon187]

is there anoher trubo that might be better but not big $$$?

 

[Caithness]

To step up to a 50 trim or some other larger turbo would push you past your 600 dollar limit by at least 100 dollars.

 

[Black Venom]

High12s to low 11s is a big gap.
You can make just over 400hp with a evo316g with the right parts and tunning tools. And that is good for high 11`s in a full weight car.
It can handle alot more than 20psi.

This is correct, however I would like to see what the Evo3 16g could do at 5-6000ft elevation. It won't be 11's I can tell you that.
Even then I wouldn't push it much past 23-24psi on Pump gas 93, but it all depends on your preferences of tuning(less timing and more boost could achieve higher boost levels).

 

[TheClaw]

Oh hey guys hi i'm 16 and i have a dsm but i can't drive yet I want 4,500,386 horsepower but I only have $20 to spend what are my options I don't want it to be unreliable either

thanks

 

[Ultimatedsm]

To get into the 11's, you will need something like a 50 trim to get there easier. You will be needing a lot of supporting mods because you know, the turbo alone doesn't get you good power. If your broke, stick with the 16G.

You know most of your money will go into the fuel system and tuning to make that power. After you make over 400WHP, have a lot of money left over for clutches,drive shafts or drivetrain parts and have a enough money for a TRE/Shep Tranny. It is either, cheap, fast or reliable. Pick two at one time, thats how it works.

 

[compression]

I dont believe its THAT hard to get into the low 12's with the evo 3 16g. 23 psi with a splash of race gas, and a decent tune on maft and afc is all it really took for me, besides all of my other supporting mods.

 

[Ultimatedsm]

Well "COMPRESSION", he said low 11's to high 12's and I said, it is VERY difficult to run low 11's with a 16G for a full weight street car of course. If you strip like a 1000 pounds off your car, then it is a different story. He also wants to make 400-450WHP which I have not seen on a 16G with a stock motor, I have seen those kind of numbers on a built motor.

 

[compression]

i was more or less responding to jet black, sorry to offend you "ULTIMATEDSM", im not argueing with you i think you accually know what your talking about. everytime i see a thread about the evo 3 16g, i have to come in and give my 2 cents and defend the evo 3 16g because people like to bash it.

 

[compression]

another turbo you could try in that price range is this one

http://store.straightlinespecialties.com//product_info.php?cPath=32_77&products_id=184

 

[bmwisthekey]

, i have to come in and give my 2 sense

Ooo im telling fix your spelling silly, "2 cents"

 

[AWDer]

I ran 12.8 at Bandimere Speedway. That is 5900 feet up. I did that with cracks on my exhaust manifold, a bad turbo to manifold gasket (I did not know at the time), stock cams, stock motor, and 91 octane pump gas. I have an evo 3 16g, "bolt ons", FMIC, and DSMLink. I am also full weight and the car needed washed at the time. Good tuning is very key.

Josh

 

[Ultimatedsm]

i was more or less responding to jet black, sorry to offend you "ULTIMATEDSM", im not argueing with you i think you accually know what your talking about. everytime i see a thread about the evo 3 16g, i have to come in and give my 2 sense and defend the evo 3 16g because people like to bash it.

The EVOIII 16g is probably one of the best turbochargers ever made for our cars. If you want an all out street car, this is the best turbo for you. It gives you a ton of low end torque due to it's quick spool characteristics and will probably own any 50 trim with equal mods on an autocross course thats for sure (Equal driver skill, equal mods).

I love quick spooling turbos, I wish I could find a turbo that spools like a T-25, but has a top end of a 50 trim. The reality is that you have to compromise somewhere for everything.

Now for your 400-450WHP goal, you need a 50 trim , Green or 20G around that size range. I don't even know what your main overall goals for your car. Is this car going to be mainly a street car? Or are you going to drag race this thing? Or you are going to do some circuit racing? You can make 400 BHP with a EVOIII 16 G, but WHP will most likely cost your more than just going with a 50 trim.

I can blab on for hours and the person who asked this questions hasn't even posted yet.

 

[NewB2dsm]

I love these threads, a bunch of people who have never used the turbo all talking.

The small 16g i ran a 12.1, with simple steps. Umm get the right parts, get on a dyno and tune it with a damn afc. Really tuff, and lean to drive my car.

Now i have an evo 16g and will be tuning it in a few weeks, and if i dont break into the 11's there is somthing wrong.

 

[Ultimatedsm]

I love these threads, a bunch of people who have never used the turbo all talking.

The small 16g i ran a 12.1, with simple steps. Umm get the right parts, get on a dyno and tune it with a damn afc. Really tuff, and lean to drive my car.

Now i have an evo 16g and will be tuning it in a few weeks, and if i dont break into the 11's there is somthing wrong.

Don't know what I am talking about? Once you pull a LOW 11 second run, come back to me than tell me that. You think you can shave off one full second with the "EVOIII" 16G. You think you can make 400-450WHP out of it as well? Come on proove me wrong.

 

[Tom N]

I never found it hard to get hp out of the evo316g.
I will be putting one back on my car this summer and I expect a 10.99 out of it with out spray.
I would get one over a garrett 50trim anyday.

 

[Ultimatedsm]

Well of course you didn't find it hard to get HP out of your EVOIII 16G, you have a built motor. I am not talking about a built motor, if this guys budget is $600 for a turbo, I don't think he can afford to build it his motor from the ground up at the moment.

If you go a few posts up, I did talk about how I have seen 400-450WHP on BUILT motors but never stock motors.

 

[NewB2dsm]

Don't know what I am talking about? Once you pull a LOW 11 second run, come back to me than tell me that. You think you can shave off one full second with the "EVOIII" 16G. You think you can make 400-450WHP out of it as well? Come on proove me wrong.

First off my post was not directed at you, it was to the people who think its hard to get it into the 12's and very hard to get it into the 11s.

Also where do you see me shaving off a full second? i never said that, i said i already ran a 12.1 with the small and now i have the evo16g on my car and if i dont get into the 11's i will be upset. If i said i want to run a 11.1 then you could bash me, beacuse yes that would be a little harder to do.

Im just saying that you dont have to be an expert tuning to get some decent to good times from these turbos. All i have is an afc for tuing, it doesnt take a rocket scientitst to use one, it does take someone who will spend money on tuning it on a dyno, though which i think is the problem with half of the people that bash the 16g, they never actaully take the time or money to do things right.

 

[Ultimatedsm]

I am still waiting on the original poster to post. I don't want to blab on. I already said the EVOIII16G is a great turbo, and I said its one of the best. It isn't a good turbo if you have one thing in mind, making a lot of power. It is a well balanced turbo that will give you everything.

 

[Drifter27_04]

Hey you guys...I just jetted through this thread and wanted to comment on the HP. Off the top of my mind it serves me correctly that the EVO 16 is capable of 400+ little more as SBR done so on one of there cars when they were making dyno runs on several different types of turbos. BUT this does also fall back on a moderate built motor. Please correct me on this if I am wrong.

Point is you may see little more on the EVO but have to spend the extra money and time in building your motor up.