Dyno'd my PTE 54 trim

[VRMAN]

Well I took my car up to get some tuning as the car was just running pig rich and I knew there were some boost leaks that I couldn't find. So they found the main boost leak causing me to not hit full boost in 3rd gear until 4300rpms. After some tuning and fixing the boost leaks I am hitting 21psi at 3800rpms. He put it on the dyno after fixing the leaks and toying with the AFC and put down 299whp on pump gas. I guess that number may seem low to most of you guys but I'm prettty happy with it, that was at 6400rpms and 20psi. Greg (the shop tuner/owner) was sayng with another couple hours of tuning since he couldn't get a good tune after 6400 that he could probably get 320whp out of it.

So I am wondering if I am missing any hard parts that you can think of to help out? My full and current mod list is in my profile. My near future plans include changing out the TurboXS RFL (really fukcing lousy) BOV which keeps cracking open and leaking boost over 18psi to a GReddy Type RS and adding a Zeitronix wideband. Aside from that and some more tuning, I'll be ready to hit the track. I'm hoping to hit 116+mph traps on 100 octane.

Anyways, I'm pretty happy with the car now, it runs really nice on the street and with some more tuning, I think I could have one of the nicest 1Gs in the city. I'm hoping to have some real world info on the PTE SCM32 since nobody really uses it. Anything else you guys can think of for the car?


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[99gst_racer]

I'm hoping to hit 116+mph traps on 100 octane.

With 300HP?? Good luck. Your traps will probably be a little closer to 105mph and if you plan to put down some decent times, you might want to invest in a pair of slicks.

PS - Can you please edit that picture to make it fit the screen....

 

[VRMAN]

Well my 300whp was on PUMP gas and 20psi. In the post I stated I was shooting for those traps on 100 octane and high boost. So my numbers on pump aren't really directly related to my goal. I'll most likely be running 25psi at the track and right around 360whp.

P.S--->The picture isn't that big and I cant get it smaller, sorry.

 

[Steve93Talon]

I made 289whp and trapped 111.3 on my 14b

 

[ChicksDigBoost]

My roomates FWD 1g trapped at 106mph with a 16g @ 20psi without slicks, I would think you be able to trap higher than that.

 

[99gst_racer]

My roomates FWD 1g trapped at 106mph with a 16g @ 20psi without slicks, I would think you be able to trap higher than that.

106 is easy. Hell, I can trap a 106 mph on street tires with a 3 sec 60 ft. All I'm saying is that FWD traction is a bi***, so low times and high traps are a challenge not to underestimate.

I made 289whp and trapped 111.3 on my 14b

Comparing AWD times to FWD times is like apples to oranges. There's also 14b's in the 11's - doesnt mean the mojority are.

VRMAN - When do you plan to take it to the track?

 

[PaleDSM]

I would guess you are looking at more like 108-110 traps at the level you are at.

 

[1fast97gsx]

You need to fix your boost leaks and get it retuned. 320 whp can EASILY be done on a 50 trim around 20 psi....

 

[VRMAN]

If I only hit 110 traps in my GS-T I'll be disappointed. I think with the CF hood, lighter rims and the front bumper support removed the car probably weighs around 27XX pounds. AWDs with 50trims have trapped 114+. I think I'll be able to get to high teens with a good tune and high boost.

Anyways, off that, I'm still pretty content with the pump gas numbers for now. Another 25hp to eek out and I'll be real happy.

 

[1fast97gsx]

I think with the CF hood, lighter rims and the front bumper support removed the car probably weighs around 27XX pounds.

Why bother with all that weight reduction bs. Fix whatever is wrong with your car and have it retuned. You should have made more power thats the bottom line. Weight reduction is a bandaid fix and it costs money.

 

[VRMAN]

The weight reduction was done before I had the tuning done, it just is what it is, its not a "band-aid" for anything. And the boost leaks ARE fixed, this tuning is done on 91 octane. How much power with a sidemount and 50 trim do you expect me to get on pump gas and 20psi? This is not the limit of the car but its not a shitty number either. Like I said, with another hour or so of tuning I'll probably eek out 315whp which I'll be happy with.

On race gas and the boost cranked up, that's a whole other story.

 

[CanadianTSi]

I made 289whp and trapped 111.3 on my 14b

I made 268 and trapped 111 with my 16g....it all depends on the Dyno

 

[1fast97gsx]

I didn't realize you don't have a fmic. Why on earth would you have all those mods including arp mains which require the block to be align honed and spend all that time and money but not get a fmic. I suggest you get a fmic and a retune. You should be able to run at least 22-23 psi on pump properly tuned and have tons more power.

 

[enid84]

Sidemount on that size of a turbo is a big no-no I bet your air temps were rocket high..get a frontmount and you will see a huge gain.

 

[VRMAN]

People have run excellent times on a Supra sidemount before, I know I can do the same. The IC never heatsoaked at 20psi, its 225% bigger than stock. My office is right near the parole board and I had 2 FMIC's stolen so I went sleeper status with the SMIC and haven't had problems since. At a certain point I'll add a propane kit so that 98 octane at the pump will keep knock down. Great numbers can be had on my setup, I'm looking to push the envelope of HP and times put down with a sidemount. Here is one more picture of the car, let me know what you think:

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[peregrine]

nice car. too much red dont listen to these guys. if your making safe power and your happy dont listen to anyone else. everyone on these boards has their own opinion (usually wrong) just do your own thing. i think you may be able to hit 112 if you crank it to 25 psi and use some 110 octane.

 

[VRMAN]

Thanks. I'm really looking to hit 116 traps on race gas but we'll see. Once the wideband, FMIC and propane injection are installed I think it'll be done. Good to see 1G FWDs go fast, they are a rare breed.

 

[guitarXgeek]

Thanks. I'm really looking to hit 116 traps on race gas but we'll see. Once the wideband, FMIC and propane injection are installed I think it'll be done. Good to see 1G FWDs go fast, they are a rare breed.

Just curious, but what convinced you to go with propane injection instead of water/alcohol injection? Those are nice numbers considering the boost and the stock sidemount, props

 

[99gst_racer]

Just curious, but what convinced you to go with propane injection instead of water/alcohol injection? Those are nice numbers considering the boost and the stock sidemount, props

He's using a Supra SMIC not a stocker.

 

[VRMAN]

Amazes me how people just completely don't read posts. There is no way to read that thread or check my profile and think I have a stock sidemount WTF

Anyways, I decided to go with propane because a very reputable shop has made an excellent kit and made it affordable. Propane and alchy injection do basically the same function, propane is cheap to refill too.

 

[guitarXgeek]

Amazes me how people just completely don't read posts. There is no way to read that thread or check my profile and think I have a stock sidemount WTF

Ok, chill out skippy. I knew you had a supra sidemount, but I guess I just thought stock sidemount when I was typing that. No need to get your panties in a wad.

How much is that shop's propane injection kit going for?

 

[1fast97gsx]

I'm confused .. do you have the suprA sidemount or the supER sidemount? Your profile says the dejon tools smic, you say supra. Either way I would upgrade it ... why did they only tune it at 20 psi?

 

[VRMAN]

Guitargeek: I could care less man, my panies aren't in a wad it was just an observation and it happens alot on car forums, I just used yours as an example, no worries. Anyways, the propane kit is around $270 I believe, I'll double check for you.

1fast97gsx: I have the Dejontool super-sidemount but I used the Supra sidemount as an example of what SMIC's are capable of for track times as the Super-Sidemount isn't as well known. Also, I tuned for 20psi because that is about the extent of what I can use on 91 octane pump gas and my setup. I'll tune for high boost when I am running 100-110 octane.

 

[VRMAN]

I'm confused .. do you have the suprA sidemount or the supER sidemount? Your profile says the dejon tools smic, you say supra. Either way I would upgrade it ... why did they only tune it at 20 psi?

Another case of not reading like the first guy. I said super-sidemount and in one post said that the SUPRA sidemount has had good times run on it. Also, during the body of this thread I already mentioned why I don't run an FMIC.

 

[NewB2dsm]

Not bad numbers, but i was expecting more. Also heat soaking on the dyno and on the track are a bit different. On a track you are going wot through 4 gears. Not one pull like on a dyno.

Dyno my sidemount didnt heatsoak at all (supra sidemount) but on the track my MPH showed different. Put on a FMIC and i didnt gain much HP at all maybe like 5-10whp and gained close to 3-4mph.

Also, I hope you plan on going back to the dyno and tuning it on race gas right? Also what were your AFR's on pump?