little help from the PROS on this log!

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! the log starts out in 1st gear and then ends at 7000rpm in 3rd gear. I just want to know whats going on with my car. This is just timing and o2 volts. The timming seems to be all over the place utnil 3rd gear. it levels off nice and just stays there.

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This is using tunerstein and a palm.


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Chris R

 

[kpt4321]

Type out the information you got from third gear, all I need is rpm's and timing.

...Kyle T.

 

[Blk_99gst]

Yeah, we need excel spread sheet form. The graphs look pretty, but we need to see rpms, timing, throttle position, o2 voltage.

EDIT - Since you are still a 2g, you can't log knock count correct. Just saw it listed in your graph.

 

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0} Rpms: 3724 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.08
TPS: 25 Air: 102 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 28 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:6.56 MPH:36
MPH: 36
{1} Rpms: 4164 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.9
TPS: 37 Air: 98 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 22 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:15.49 MPH:40
MPH: 40
{2} Rpms: 5092 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 60 Air: 93 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 11 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:24.53 MPH:48
MPH: 48
{3} Rpms: 6272 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 72 Air: 93 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 17 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:26.74 MPH:58
MPH: 58
{4} Rpms: 5868 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.76
TPS: 73 Air: 95 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 20 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:17.4 MPH:63
MPH: 63
{5} Rpms: 4860 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 78 Air: 93 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 9 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:22.31 MPH:68
MPH: 68
{6} Rpms: 5288 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 80 Air: 91 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 11 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:23.71 MPH:73
MPH: 73
{7} Rpms: 5672 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 81 Air: 91 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 14 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:24.64 MPH:79
MPH: 79
{8} Rpms: 6016 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 77 Air: 89 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 16 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:25.52 MPH:85
MPH: 85
{9} Rpms: 6336 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 70 Air: 89 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 17 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:13.64 MPH:87
MPH: 87
{10} Rpms: 5076 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.76
TPS: 1 Air: 93 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 34 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:1.49 MPH:88
MPH: 88
{11} Rpms: 3404 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.72
TPS: 1 Air: 96 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 23 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.86 MPH:81
MPH: 81


What I do not understand is my damn TPS? never really hits over 90% at all?

this is a big16g @15psi and the car feels slow. I know I have a boost leak to find and fix but what about this log?

I will try and make another run tonight and log it to see what the TPS will do just to make sure everything is ok.

Chris R

 

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OK someone has to help me out!

Chris R

 

[candela]

You want help eh? Chris your timing looks pretty good. I didnt even bother reading your second post, but IMO logs under 3rd gear aren't a waste of time but they aren't very good to tune and understand whats going on with. Use 3rd or 4th gear logs only. I always start from ~2-3k in 3rd and go to the top of 4th gear when doing logs....being in gear that long gives great feedback.

If you have a boost leak....fix it. If you TPS is reading 90% at WOT then adjust throttle cable, TPS and after all that check to make sure you get a full 4.8-5.0 volts at the TPS itself. After this if you come back and give me a nice 3rd and 4th gear pull typed out nicely I promise we'll be able to help you out a lot.

Austin

 

[nine5raptor]

chris--

are you going out to the mazda sport compact challenge this weekend at kcir? I could probably check out your logs/car there. We could hook up my pocketlogger and see if it reads better than that tunerstein software.

chris
kcdsm

 

[Twitch'sGrl]

Ya I will be there on sunday! Dont think im going to be able to run my car cause tomorrow Im going to worlds of fun but I will be there on sunday. what about you?

Chris

 

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OK finally got a better log tell me if this helps?

{0} Rpms: 864 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.06
TPS: 1 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 7 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.45 MPH:14
MPH: 14 Load: 17
{1} Rpms: 872 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.08
TPS: 1 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 7 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.45 MPH:1
MPH: 1 Load: 17
{2} Rpms: 856 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.52
TPS: 1 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 8 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.42 MPH:0
Load: 1
{3} Rpms: 812 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.76
TPS: 1 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 7 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.43 MPH:0
Load: 18
{4} Rpms: 780 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.22
TPS: 17 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 6 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:1.17 MPH:1
MPH: 1 Load: 46
{5} Rpms: 876 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.79
TPS: 18 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 15 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:2.34 MPH:5
MPH: 5 Load: 37
{6} Rpms: 2484 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.19
TPS: 17 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 29 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:3.55 MPH:15
MPH: 15 Load: 25
{7} Rpms: 3428 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.16
TPS: 1 Air: 80 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 33 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.89 MPH:19
MPH: 19 Load: 48
{8} Rpms: 2500 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.82
TPS: 36 Air: 80 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 22 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:6.19 MPH:22
MPH: 22 Load: 67
{9} Rpms: 3380 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.9
TPS: 37 Air: 78 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 12 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:13.21 MPH:34
MPH: 34 Load: 100
{10} Rpms: 4544 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.94
TPS: 89 Air: 77 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 9 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:22.45 MPH:39
MPH: 39 Load: 100
{11} Rpms: 6420 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.94
TPS: 90 Air: 75 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 13 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:27.5 MPH:54
MPH: 54 Load: 14
{12} Rpms: 5880 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.78
TPS: 93 Air: 77 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 26 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:19.11 MPH:62
MPH: 62 Load: 100
{13} Rpms: 4972 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 96 Air: 73 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 11 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:23.05 MPH:68
MPH: 68 Load: 100
{14} Rpms: 5564 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 96 Air: 73 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 12 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:25.51 MPH:77
MPH: 77 Load: 100
{15} Rpms: 6036 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.94
TPS: 94 Air: 71 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 13 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:27.09 MPH:84
MPH: 84 Load: 100
{16} Rpms: 6432 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.94
TPS: 83 Air: 71 Clt: 206 Dc:0.0%
Timing 10 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:14.57 MPH:89
MPH: 89 Load: 85
{17} Rpms: 4688 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 97 Air: 73 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 10 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:20.96 MPH:91
MPH: 91 Load: 100
{18} Rpms: 4992 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 97 Air: 71 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 11 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:21.95 MPH:95
MPH: 95 Load: 100
{19} Rpms: 5188 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 97 Air: 71 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 11 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:23.22 MPH:99
MPH: 99 Load: 100
{20} Rpms: 5360 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 97 Air: 71 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 12 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:24.15 MPH:103
MPH: 103 Load: 100
{21} Rpms: 5516 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 97 Air: 71 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 12 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:24.8 MPH:106
MPH: 106 Load: 100
{22} Rpms: 5688 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.96
TPS: 96 Air: 71 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 14 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:25.46 MPH:109
MPH: 109 Load: 100
{23} Rpms: 5628 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.79
TPS: 1 Air: 73 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 34 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:2.31 MPH:109
MPH: 109 Load: 11
{24} Rpms: 3240 Prs/Vac 0.0 O2: 0.26
TPS: 1 Air: 73 Clt: 210 Dc:0.0%
Timing 23 Knock: 0
Fuel(pw) 0.0 Hz:0.89 MPH:106
MPH: 106 Load: 14

 

[nine5raptor]

sorry I didn't make it out there on sunday. the custom off roader I am building needed a LOT more work. I have been putting in about 3 weeks of 14 hour days 7 days a week to get it ready. painted it yesterday and leave for 4 days of racing tomorrow.

ok, back to the logs. timing has a nice upward progression which is mostly what you should be looking for. It would be a lot easier to see though if you could trim these down to: tps, rpm, 02 volt., timing. and only give us the parts of the log that are over 85% tps.

 

[Silent2g]

you can tell if you're knocking by not even having the ability to phycially see it on the logger. hell i cna tell just by looking at your logs
and you are a bit

 

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So is this good bad? What do I need more fuel?

Little help

Chris

 

[Omega]

You don't need to record that much data. Just timing, RPM, throttle position, and O2 volts. The load, MPH, knock and so on are cluttering the good stuff up. I don't have tunerstein so I don't know if you can clean it up. If you could put it in an easy to read format that would be great.. like this:

RPM Timing TPS O2

xxxx yyy zzz aa

It makes things SO much easier and quicker. You need to check to make sure the throttle is opening all the way first. It looks like you are running quite rich.