H@xtGSX
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If you're like me and use an SAFC to compensate for larger injectors, you've probably discovered that the SAFC really only works "well" in a narrow band of the engine load. Most people compensate for this by spending weeks messing around with the settings to get the most power when they are going at full throttle. This generally means you also run rediculously rich for a vast majority of the normal daily driving. Mine was so rich at one point when I was tuning it that I could light my exhaust on fire as it left the tailpipe and it would maintain a flame... not a good thing. It's also rather painful at the gas pump. Well, I got sick of dealing with this and did some researching to see if there's a fix. I found one, and it works. First, I found out that the SAFC was originally designed for naturally aspirated motors running high compression and bigger injectors. Because of this, referencing the fuel correction off the throttle position is roughly in accordance with the engine load, at least it is moreso than any boosted engine. We use them on boosted motors with a much more dynamic range of conditions at the exact same throttle position, thus they really only help for a narrow portion of those conditions. So how does one fix this? Stop basing the correction on a useless figure like the throttle position and use something representative of the actual engine load... like the absolute intake manifold pressure. This is how speed density operation calculates fuel, so why not do the same with the SAFC? This thread by a guy with a boosted 420a outlines how to do just that.
2GNT.com - SAFC_fuel_Compensation_Based_on_Boost
I basically followed his advice and ordered the MAP sensor mentioned in that write up. It was about $20 shipped, and it is wider range and more sensitive than a GM MAP sensor for roughly 1/4 the price. This is it:
It's about the size of a quarter. I soldered on some wires for the power and signal, attached a hard tube and T to splice into my boost gauge line, stuck it inside a little project box from Radio Shack, and installed it. This is what it looks like right now.
It reads absolute pressure, so that means it can read vacuum also. I attached the gray SAFC wire to the signal wire from the MAP sensor, and this is what it reads this morning with the engine off and at normal atmospheric pressure.
So I make "0 psi" on my boost gauge the low throttle point, and set the high point for what the sensor should be at for around 20 psi. The SAFC will self adjust to higher boost and set the 100% point higher if you don't take the car out and run it at your absolute highest boost pressure at least once, so I did, then backed it off to where I want the normal maximum boost to be at. This is what I wound up setting it at.
Now, the SAFC makes it's fuel corrections based on the engine load, and it works MUCH better. My gas mileage has improved, the engine responds faster, and the turbo spools a bit quicker. It also allows me to set my corrections fairly aggressively for 550's, still keep the fuel trims close to 0, and the ECU basically self tunes everything for you from that point. It beats the heck out of messing around with it for weeks, trying to find that "sweet spot"! It's a major upgrade if you're using an SAFC and I highly recommend it.
Enjoy!
2GNT.com - SAFC_fuel_Compensation_Based_on_Boost
I basically followed his advice and ordered the MAP sensor mentioned in that write up. It was about $20 shipped, and it is wider range and more sensitive than a GM MAP sensor for roughly 1/4 the price. This is it:
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It's about the size of a quarter. I soldered on some wires for the power and signal, attached a hard tube and T to splice into my boost gauge line, stuck it inside a little project box from Radio Shack, and installed it. This is what it looks like right now.
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It reads absolute pressure, so that means it can read vacuum also. I attached the gray SAFC wire to the signal wire from the MAP sensor, and this is what it reads this morning with the engine off and at normal atmospheric pressure.
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So I make "0 psi" on my boost gauge the low throttle point, and set the high point for what the sensor should be at for around 20 psi. The SAFC will self adjust to higher boost and set the 100% point higher if you don't take the car out and run it at your absolute highest boost pressure at least once, so I did, then backed it off to where I want the normal maximum boost to be at. This is what I wound up setting it at.
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Now, the SAFC makes it's fuel corrections based on the engine load, and it works MUCH better. My gas mileage has improved, the engine responds faster, and the turbo spools a bit quicker. It also allows me to set my corrections fairly aggressively for 550's, still keep the fuel trims close to 0, and the ECU basically self tunes everything for you from that point. It beats the heck out of messing around with it for weeks, trying to find that "sweet spot"! It's a major upgrade if you're using an SAFC and I highly recommend it.
Enjoy!
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