MAF Translator Kit: Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99

[silver bullit]

Maf Translator Kit: Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99 This is for a 90 btw.

Think about ordering one to get rid of my stock intake.
3in or 3-1/2 inch maf?
Anybody got one any feedback on one, i can find them for 330 but if you know somewhere cheaper lmk.
Also pros and cons... thanks.

 

[1992awdlaser]

I have one on my car but I tune with Dsmlink. I have heard of problems with them when you use it to tune. The only reason I have one is because I was overrunning the stock maf(and the gm maf is less of a restriction).

 

[92AWDHX40]

Pros it eliminates some of the restrictions, you can vent to the atmosphere, and helps
with turbo spool up. No problems with mine, the translator itself can be bought
at several sites ,such as extreme psi, or slowboy.

 

[4Motion4g63]

EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - MAF Translator Kit: Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99

I just ordered the complete kit for this and its really nice, also what do you have plans for intake? All total the Forced Perfomance Intake works out good for the money and A really nice piece....


EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Forced Performance Aluminum Intake Pipe: Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99

Tuning is the biggest gain, No you will have the abllity to run larger injectors, increase boost, and run open BOV... Dont know that there are many cons to these setups except overall cost of goods, as far as the difference in 3.00 and 3.50, I cant tell you what it may be....

 

[1992awdlaser]

3" maf

eBay Motors: 3 in GM Mas Maf DSM Eclipse Turbo 1G 2G Tran MAFT (item 7962298360 end time Mar-30-08 22:39:45 PDT)

3.5" maf

eBay Motors: GM MASS AIR SENSOR 3.5" MAS - For MAF Translator DSM (item 180102975456 end time Mar-26-08 15:59:27 PDT)

Maf-t

Slowboy Racing, Inc. :: DSM :: Fuel :: MAF Translators :: 1G DSM MAF Translator


You will over-run the 3" before the 3.5" maf obviously. But it takes a good amount of airflow to over-run either. Just pick the size you want. What are your plans for the car in the long run? The only differance between the two sizes is how much airflow they can accurately read. The reason some people have problems tuning with them is because of the type of maf it is. Weather changes will affect the gm maf more then a stock maf which will change the tune.

 

[silver bullit]

Sorry for the newb question at times i must ask retarded questions i know everything but tuning stuff ie: wideband, i know a bit about dsmlink but i dont have it waiting till i get money for it...

I can tune cars great but i dont know what tuning stuff to buy. I want dsmlink before anything else but money and rebuilding my eprom ecu is a problem now

I plan on running a hx35 or 40 holset t3 of course maybe t4 if money allows, as the 50 trim was ok i want more power.
I spin through second at lower rpms till 4k bit but i dont wanna have traction in 3rd with awd.

I can beat on stock light moded 90-96 vettes fine but i wanna beat vipers.

I need to overhaul the intake it sucks and 1g and 2g mafs dont flow enough.

 

[1992awdlaser]

What I would do is get a 3.5" gm maf and a translator temporaroly. Deffinately get Dsmlink as soon as possible. Your car will run so much better with Dsmlink and you will have so many more features with Dsmlink. With the 50 trim you should be able to make it beat vipers. I know my car withthe SBR g-50 will pull on vipers. I have pulled on two vipers.


Edit: I just saw your injectors. They are holding the 50 trim back from what it can do.

 

[silver bullit]

What I would do is get a 3.5" gm maf and a translator temporaroly. Deffinately get Dsmlink as soon as possible. Your car will run so much better with Dsmlink and you will have so many more features with Dsmlink. With the 50 trim you should be able to make it beat vipers. I know my car withthe SBR g-50 will pull on vipers. I have pulled on two vipers.


Edit: I just saw your injectors. They are holding the 50 trim back from what it can do.

Yeah i know but i dont wanna pull...

I wanna rape them, hx35/40 FTW!!!

Yep till i get dsm link or the zip socket for the eprom chip to get chipped the injectors wont get upgraded, i also need to replace the clutch (stock replacement with 0 miles) before i try to do more than 20 psi on it.

 

[spoonman]

For $260 you can purchase a tuning system called DSmap. Same tuning ability as DSM link but for a lot cheaper. It uses a MAP sensor so you do not have to run the original MAF and it is cheaper than a MAFT setup with a lot more tuning options. I have run the system and my brothers car runs it, we were both very pleased with the program.

Here is a link explaining more on the program.

DSmap

 

[silver bullit]

Car mods updated...

For $260 you can purchase a tuning system called DSmap. Same tuning ability as DSM link but for a lot cheaper. It uses a MAP sensor so you do not have to run the original MAF and it is cheaper than a MAFT setup with a lot more tuning options. I have run the system and my brothers car runs it, we were both very pleased with the program.

Here is a link explaining more on the program.

DSmap

I forgot about this... ill look into it.

 

[1992awdlaser]

Yeah i know but i dont wanna pull...

I wanna rape them, hx35/40 FTW!!!

You just need a better set up. Look at the mods in my profile. If I run a viper from a stop I will murder them. Even if one puts drag radials on it I won't have a problem out running them. When I run them from a roll I still pull a pretty good amount on them.

I suggest you do more supporting mods before you get a bigger turbo. You will be surprised by what that 50 trim can do with the mods I have and 28-30psi on pump or race gas.

 

[silver bullit]

Yeah i know i sold the 50 so i got a setup to play with. I know injectors etc need updates but when the bigger turbo goes on is when i have everything to do it right.

I want pics of your car.

 

[1992awdlaser]

Nothing special to look at.

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And the reason I am looking for a shell to swap everything into.

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[1992awdlaser]

And yes they are all cell phone pictures(everybody asks).

 

[snowborder714]

I highly doubt you'd ever need a 3.5" GM MAF. If so, I'd go speed density. But for your application, a 3" MAF would work fine. Plus, how ridiculous would a 3.5" MAF look in the middle of 2.5" intercooler piping?

As far as tuning, I would recommend not using the MAF-T alone to tune. It is very unreliable and also doesn't offer very specific tuning ability. I would save up your money and by a good tuning/logging system (DSMlink, which is obviously proven...or DSMap which I haven't read about yet but some people are pushing it). This way you can just zero out the translator and not have to really worry about it. But, as always, some people still have had some problems and switched back to the stock 1g/2g MAS. So, you're taking a gamble when installing the MAF-T setup. There are many people on here that are running it without a problem (either by itself, or with an S-AFC, DSMlink, other tuning program). I'm personally running a 3" MAF and haven't run into any problems yet with it (coupled with DSMlink).

 

[JayRolla]

If you are looking to run the maf-t you can buy it on ebay for $200 shipped. Go to a local junkyard and pick up a maf off of a gm for $10. Then get some 3.25-2.5 inch couplers for around $25-$35 for a pair and you have yourself a kit. Thats way cheaper than anywhere else.

If you dont have a safc, dsmlink, emanage or something else to help tune it can be a pain. But it can be done. A lot of people have ran just a maf-t for tuning and made good power.

 

[JWoodley]

If you are looking to run the maf-t you can buy it on ebay for $200 shipped. Go to a local junkyard and pick up a maf off of a gm for $10. Then get some 3.25-2.5 inch couplers for around $25-$35 for a pair and you have yourself a kit. Thats way cheaper than anywhere else.

If you dont have a safc, dsmlink, emanage or something else to help tune it can be a pain. But it can be done. A lot of people have ran just a maf-t for tuning and made good power.

I just pieced my kit together from EBay and a local DSM site.

-Brand new MAFT v2.02 - $150 shipped
-GM MAF from Sparks Auto on Ebay - $30 shipped
-Clampco 3.25" Tbolts (2) on Ebay - $9 shipped
-2.5" - 3" silicone couplers (2) on EBay- $14.85 shipped

No need to spend $330. =)

 

[EclipseSH21]

Only real reason I can see to go to a MAFT/GM MAF setup is the ability to still drive the car after blowing off I/C piping. other than that, the gains aren't so great. I do run a GM MAF/MAFT but just I set it to base settings. Forget about tuning with it, there are MUCH better options out there.

 

[1992awdlaser]

Only real reason I can see to go to a MAFT/GM MAF setup is the ability to still drive the car after blowing off I/C piping. other than that, the gains aren't so great. I do run a GM MAF/MAFT but just I set it to base settings. Forget about tuning with it, there are MUCH better options out there.

Or if you over run the stock maf like I did. I still don't use it for tuning though, that is what I have Dsmlink for.

 

[Black_Bullet]

Ok in light of this thread i have a few GM Maft questions.

Ive ran 2g and evo8 mas sensors with good success, but i am looking to go blow thru
so i can run a Tial BOV, and also for the main reason being so i can free up restriction in front of the turbo. Even though i dont plan to upgrade from the evo3 for awhile, ive read a few good reviews on increases of spool up and airflow when going blow thru over draw thru even on 16g sized turbos.

Ive read of a few problems regarding them but they dont deter me away.
I will be tuning with my eprom ecu chips like i always have and dont plan on doing any thing with the MAft therefore it will be zeroed out.

So my question is, My eprom chip is setup to run my 850cc injectors and 2g mas currently.
Do i need to buy a 2g version of the GM Maft translator or the 1g version.
I noticed extreme psi has a selection option to whether you want a 1g or 2g so i take it there not the same?

Do i have to recalibrate anything in my chip tune, what kind of mas do i compensate for on the chip now? Does it alter the set AFR switching to the Gm setup? Or do i keep the chip tune the same and just pull the 2g maft and install the GM? Im really lost on that part. SOmeone before told me to tell my chip that i have the stock 1g mas again when i go GM, but why cant i just keep it set as a 2g mas ( like a stock 2g would going to maft'? )
Maybe im missing something here or over thinking it but i have no experience with MAft translators yet.

I dont plan on buying it just yet but just trying to get some research done.
I have a clutch job to do, a paint job, and a wide band before i get Maft; but if i can source together a good enough deal on a Maft and translator ( I already have plenty of couplers, Tbolt clamps) then id consider getting it earlier to get it out the way.

 

[1992awdlaser]

So my question is, My eprom chip is setup to run my 850cc injectors and 2g mas currently.Do i need to buy a 2g version of the GM Maft translator or the 1g version.I noticed extreme psi has a selection option to whether you want a 1g or 2g so i take it there not the same?

Order it for whatever maf harness you have. If you have a 2g connector wired in then get a 2g one.

Do i have to recalibrate anything in my chip tune, what kind of mas do i compensate for on the chip now? Does it alter the set AFR switching to the Gm setup?

You shouldn't have to change anything with the chip.

 

[Black_Bullet]

Order it for whatever maf harness you have. If you have a 2g connector wired in then get a 2g one.
You shouldn't have to change anything with the chip.

Wow ok awsome, I was definitly over thinking it ...
That makes me want to do it even sooner seeing that its that easy.
Thanks for the quick response my dude

 

[1992awdlaser]

No problem. Glad I could help.

 

[JrCRXHF]

I run a 3.5 inline and the MAF-t is all i use to tune it works good. The DSM is driven for the most part by my wife and she is fine with it. I do have to adjust it 2 times a year for the weather changes.

 

[Black_Bullet]

I run a 3.5 inline and the MAF-t is all i use to tune it works good. The DSM is driven for the most part by my wife and she is fine with it. I do have to adjust it 2 times a year for the weather changes.

I was considering the 3.5, i can find a coupler to still make it mate up with 2.5 piping but would it be pointless. At what point does the 3in get over ran? Could the 3.5 be possibly more accurate?
I noticed the 3.5 is actually cheaper...