Threads keep comming up on this subject so I'm just going to explain it a little. We are building a new type of blow though MAF sensor that will work with the MAF Translator box. This sensor will thread into a special flange welded onto your upper i/c pipe and hang down in the air stream. This way you don't have to have your 2.5" i/c pipe hose clamped to a 3" GM sensor. It will be integrated into your pipe. Here's the catch. The size and shape of the pipe is critical to the calibration of the sensor. So we will be selling UIP with this built in. This will also be built into all UIP's of all our new FMIC kits.

The process of fine tunning this is taking longer than we had anticipated. So it will be a couple months till this technology will be avalible. Our 2g 2-216 FMIC kits will be shipping in the next 2weeks without this flange in the UIP. We will be upgrading these UIP's for free after we get this technology fine tuned.

Ask away.

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

Nice... Always love it when new stuff comes out..

nice kevin about time you posted something about this, im [email protected]

when will you have pics on your website off the intercooler?

We didn't take pictures of the first FMIC, just sold it to a local guy to make sure everything fits. I won't be able to take any pictures till I get the first production run of them built. That will be in 2weeks when they are ready for sale. It has short routed 2.5" piping, but allows you to keep both your stock fans. Comes with all the stuff you need, t-bolts, couplers, over flow bottle. Pipes will be powder coated ether black or silver, not sure yet.

Kevin

Sounds like a good idea. Any idea of how much the kit will cost?

The 2-216 complete kit is $1100.

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

I have a question about the MAS. Say I have a FMIC setup that I'm very happy with. Can I add your sensor w/ a supplied section of the proper diameter of piping and add it into my existing setup? BTW, I have 2.5" UIPing. Sorry if this questions been asked a thousand times before but college is killing me right now, taking alot of internet time away, and this is the first I've even heard of this.

Andy

all i know is we need more info about this sensor and some pics of the fmic and senor and how they work

Originally posted by Z1500
The 2-216 complete kit is $1100.

Kevin
www.agpturbo.com

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Thanks, how much without the FMIC?

What's the estimated airflow limit of the sensor. I've heard the 3" GM MAF gets inaccurate up past 500whp.

Funny I heard it was more like 800whp.. It has been so long though, It may have been the 3.5" MAF I am thinking of... eh all I know is it's enough for 85% of all DSMers..

3" MAF is good for 800 cfm
3.5" is good for 1150 cfm.

By report of course. YMMV

Scott

If your at 500 hp,maybe its time to look for a VPC then

Oh, 800CFM not 800hp my bad.

2g 216 core from AGP

How much HP is the stock 2G mass good for?

Originally posted by FlippyAWD
If your at 500 hp,maybe its time to look for a VPC then

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WTF for?

Thanks for the pic Austin.
Yea everybody, that's what it looks like.

We may be able to adapt the blow through to any 2.5" UIP.

DCJ, email me and tell me what you need.

Kevin

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that fmic is looking realy good but, we need some more pics of the endtanks and the pipes. also how the fmic sites on the front and how the pipe are routed

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How much HP is the stock 2G mass good for?

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Local guy here in IL did 55xwhp on a 2G MAS. Another guy on east coast just dyno'd 542hp/512tq on a 2.4L stroker, 2G MAS/AFC at only 29psi on a full T4 setup.

Basically, the 2G MAS is good enough for 99% of the people on this board.

GM MAF is a blessing for 1G's. Truely plug n'play on a good running car. Cheaper and more effective than a 2G MAS & SAFC conversion. But yeah, a 2G MAS is enough for 99.9% of DSM's.

Scott

Originally posted by NOSLO2PT0
Local guy here in IL did 55xwhp on a 2G MAS. Another guy on east coast just dyno'd 542hp/512tq on a 2.4L stroker, 2G MAS/AFC at only 29psi on a full T4 setup.

Basically, the 2G MAS is good enough for 99% of the people on this board.

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I have read the 2g mas gets overrun usually around 400whp. Anything above thats and its really risky for getting a seriously lean condition. Thats is what I have read on the DSMlink boards.

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I have read the 2g mas gets overrun usually around 400whp. Anything above thats and its really risky for getting a seriously lean condition. Thats is what I have read on the DSMlink boards.

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Both cars in question are 10 sec. cars with no problems. I do believe the overrun condition exists and does occur, but at what hp level, who knows. You would need someone with an AFC/2G MAS to monitor the airflow when this actually happens during a dyno pull or something. Needless to say, it's still a great upgrade for a 1G. All the versions of the MAFT before the newest beta version don't have enough adjustment for me. 5% intervals is just too big. I'm adjusting 2% at a time when I'm tuning. You'd be surprised how big a diff. 5% is. One click and you are making nice power. next click leaner and you are knocking like a mofo. Not fun. I use the MAFT to get close, then use the AFC to fine tune. Plus, my afc settings are a little funky due to diff. loads/settings needed between 3rd and 4th gear. But I digress.