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missing hp at the dyno

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hybridGS

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Dec 20, 2002
I went to the dyno this morning to tune up 440's safc and msd. the ecu threw a check engine light for the map sensor which we found to be not connected to a pressure line and broken anyways. We installed a new gm 3bar and everything was electronicly sound. then every couple of starts it would throw the light and we would have to reset the ecu because it wouldn't clear. (All the testing to that point had been at 8psi) Now the boost got turned up to 18psi. With everything working perfect I only hit 230hp at the wheels (dynojet dyno). The guy showed me some graphs of other cars with similar set-ups that were hitting closer to 300hp and the torque was maxing out about 2500 rpm earlier. before I take it some where and start spending money ripping apart the engine what could possibly be wrong that doesn't show up on anykind of sensor. the spark timing was about 21 and never got higher than 23. The engine timing is i believe 4deg retard on the exhaust and 2 deg on the intake. His theory was either an incorrect timing belt install or cam shaft. My theory is *$( %&* %$#*%# $%%#$*& :confused:
 
Maybe it could be in the tuning of the car? Are you using a stand alone or super afc? do you know if the car is knocking or anything like that?
 
Well you can't just throw a 3 bar map sensor into a car that is designed to have a 2 bar sensor, the ECU is not getting the proper readings, which is prolly where your extra HP started to go. It was not hooked up just fine either, that's why you have that code. The ECU relies VERY heavily on that map sensor for a lot of things. You need to put the stock one back in and get a missing link. Your ECU was not made to see boost so when it does it flips out. Also it sounds to me like the cam gears are set for a non turbo car. You could get more HP buy playing with those a little bit. Do you have any boost leaks? That map sensor could very well be the major problem.
 
are you sure it is supose to be a 2bar? The shop told me it was a three bar and i have no idea about that particular system. The stock one is screwed, at idle without a pressure line connected it was reading 44psi! The car does have a missing link ( somewhere... the previous owner installed it). Well when i say everything was just fine I meant all of the readings that could possibly be obtained where correct.
This is the wiring as far as i can tell: The map output appears ( i am almost positive) to go straight to the msd without any splices. When I installed the safc i spliced into the suposed map wire (yellow with black stripe). In that case the ecu input comes directly from the safc which. To further confuse things the check engine light can only be cleared by unplugging the battery. The first start does not cause the light no matter how long it runs. Every time the light will appear on the second start of the car and you can definitly feel a difference in the way it runs.
 
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