So, they actually stuffed a 18g compressor wheel into a Evo III 16g compressor cover with a TD05 turbine clipped 15*.

FP's 18g with the TD06 is where it's at <a href =http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSM18G6&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo> FP 18g TD06H</a>.

I have the GReddy 18g that has the TD05H unclipped hot side, and I have yet to rip it open to 18psi, I so can't wait, should be done weekend after T-Day.
Currently doing mods, T-belt and a BSE.

This should be interesting, let us now if you roll with it.

anyone else with oppinions?? anybody tried this before?? thanks

Mark

It doesnt sound like a bad turbo. I know from experience I would never again buy a small mitsu housing turbo again. Ive found the evo16g is hard to make good power on pump gas. My friend has a conquest tsi with a bastard 20g. Its a 20g wheel stuffed into a 16g housing like yours but bigger. Its still doesnt perform like it should. I would say its barely better than my evo. Very disappointed with the turbo, he should have gone full blown 20g. the turbine housing is bigger and flows way better making lower intake temps.

Hey... thanks for the reply... well, I already got them started on the turbo and sent them my money...!! you think later in the future I can upgrade my compressor housing to allow more flow????????

Thanks,

Mark

Here's pics of the New turbo I got... like I said, it's 15 degree clipped turbine wheel, 18G compressor wheel. stuffed in a EVO GT casing...

what ya think??






Mark

Pretty sweet man, hope it works for yea. I really hate the exhuast housings on these GT turbos. Hope yours holds together.

This mutt of a turbo might prove to be quite interesting. I'm curious how the greatly ported GT housing will help out with an 18g wheel.

Keep up posted.

haha, ya.. I guess I'll be the guinea pig for this.. and I will deffinately let everyone know... hmm.. so the GT exhaust housings are weak??? I thought the composition of the metals is supposed to be stronger and less prone to cracking?? They actually used the OEM TD05 Turbine wheel and OEM 18G Compressor wheel... just stuffed in GT housings...

I'll be runnin this turbo @ 15 - 18 psi, 650cc injectors, EVO 9 fuel pump, AFC Neo, ARP headstuds, stock Head gasket, Ported GT manifold (which is actually Hugely ported), stainless steel O2 housing, 3 inch down pipe, eliminated cat, to a 2 3/4 inch exhaust. I hope its runs better than my Super 16G... haha

Mark

Yea thats what they say. My mechanic told me when they where first released they bought one to test and it cracked on the first cool down. WTF NOT GOOD

Nice setup, should be good for over 300whp with a FMIC. Get it dynoed so we can see what she can do on pump gas.

Hey Jay... Have you heard of more than one GT housing cracking? you got me kinda scared bro.. I searched and searched on forums for days and days, and found a lot of people more favorable towards the "Real" MHI EVOIII, and some people actually used their EVO GT's and said it was less prone to cracking due to the composition of nickel and other metals in there. kinda like what bullseye power says about their turbine housings.. anyways... I hope mine doesn't crack... haha... I'm gonna drop it in after thanksgiving.. I cannot wait! I just got my polished O2 dump.. here's the fatty O2 housing from ebay.. haha



Mark
YOUR "econo" parts guinea pig...

I've never heard of one cracking, myself. But I'm sure it happens, just like it does with legit MHI housings. I wouldn't fret.

Interesting you chose this over a super 16g. I would think this is really similar? Hard to say though since the insides of a super 16g are a secret...or am I thinking of the sleeper 16g?
Either way could you elaborate on where you purchased this turbo and your goals/reasons for swapping turbos?

The reason why I am swapping turbos is because I found out that the super 16g is a small 16g compressor wheel stuffed in a larger compressor housing. They also have a larger Turbine housing too, a 10cm one. well, My super 16G is kinda like a weird super 16... its got the super 16g COOL side, but MHI center and TD05 Turbine housing... 7cm... I don't think I get the whole 575cfm flow that hahn says their super 16g's get...

When your shop created this Frankenstein (and I say that in a positive sense), did they re-use the GT's bearings and shaft? These parts are the failure-prone parts that I would worry about. If I were you, I'd be monitoring the shaft play and compressor wheel movement on a regular basis once you get it installed.

Good luck and keep us posted on how it performs.

wow really.. The bearings and shaft?? I do believe they used the same shaft and bearings, that sux... but when it gets it's first rebuild I'll have them put in MHI TD05 bearings, etc. thanks!

Hope ya'll are having a happy thanksgiving!

Mark

Hopefully your ok, the housing cracking could have been a freak accident. It was when they where first released. The evo turbos are also have nickle content.

Well, I installed the turbo, heavily ported GT manifold, tubular O2 housing and my EVO 9 fuel pump... The installation went pretty well on for all of the parts.. The o2 housing from XS power had to be modded a lil bit to fit.. the bolt holes did not align very well on one of the holes, so I had to make the hole bigger to align to the threads, and when I was puttin back the lower heat shield, it touched the alternator... blew my 100AMP alternator fuse!!

I managed to get the car home from the Auto Hobby Shop on base a whole 30 minute drive watching my voltage drop from 12.4 to 11.1 Easy fix, i bought a new 100amp fuse for like 5 bux at checkers, NOW I WILL ALWAYS disconnect the + battery side whenever I work on the car!!! plus not to mention, its way safer.!

My palm pilot still hasn't come in yet, and since I guess the EVO 9 pump made a huge difference with my 650cc injectors.. the car is running alot richer now, so I really need to start tuning..

As far as the EVOIII GT housing with the 18G compressor wheel and 15 degree clipped TD05 turbine, well, I haven't re adjusted my boost controller and it HOLDS consistently at 10.5 psi and does not creep. Pulls pretty darn hard for 10.5 psi running pretty rich... the only down side is that I can barely hear it spool... it doesn't have the high pitch compressor spool like the super 16g, or the 14B that i've had before.. it sounds more like a vaccuum on steroids..and is very faint.... but when it blows off, you can deffinately tell it's pushing a lot of air... because the tone of the blow off has changed as well...(more high pitch/ woosh...) my front mount intercooler feels way colder so again, another sign of a more efficient turbo... I Hope that this turbo does not dissapoint me when I turn it up to 15psi... then when i get my palm pilot, i'll tune for 18psi... I'll keep ya'll posted.. here's PICTURES....

SUPER 16G- before it was pulled out...


My EVOIII GT custom 18G w/ the new manifold etc..



My car the way I'd like to beable to drive it on the road... (haha just kidding.. the rear end was jacked up(installing the evo9 pump)



Mark

Mark, if you have any more photos of your "Super 16G" installed, could you post them up? I'm interested in seeing how the lower intercooler piping was angled. Just to comment on that turbo, I think you should have gotten an elbow welded onto the compressor-side housing. I think it would have made your life a little easier.

Since my intercooler piping was made for a 14B/16G TD05H compressor housing with the flange, I just cut the piping where you see it was WELDED BACK now... to accomondate the super 16G... if the super 16G was re clocked downwards, that would've been best... But, the super 16G is up for sale now.. someone wants it for 350.00, its modded to bolt on completely like a 16G, ie you can use your oil lines/waterlines/fittings... But yup, you are correct, it would have made life easier!! it was a PITA cutting up my intercooler piping! and I had to weld it all back together when I installed my EVO 18G... i'll post some pics.

Mark

Any updates?

So far so good with the turbo setup! I'm having some timing problems with my AFC/650cc injector setup, it gives too much timing up top then pulls it all the way down to around 14 up top due to KNOCK, I assume. because it shows on the logger, and I am still at around .97 O2 voltage. I am gettin my Keydiver stage 3 chip and eprom ECU on wednesday, so It'll make a huge difference, I HOPE!!!! So far, at night time, the car pulls crazy till REDLINE! That is when my IAT's are at around 120 or so, but during the day, it goes all the way up to 160 i believe and that is also why it starts to knock specially ### all of the timing the safc makes the ecu give.

mark

plan on ever taking it to a dyno? with those injectors and pump you should run at least 14 psi without a tune, make it a little more fun, use up some of that extra fuel.

As soon as I get my chipped ecu from Keydiver(dsmchips.com) I will be taking it to a dyno and fine tune with my safc. I'll be tuning it for 17psi. I hope 3 pulls will be good enough because the ECU is supposed to be a pretty good base tune. then fine tune with the safc while on the dyno. When I move to california, I'll probably get my dsmlink.

Mark Padilla

Are you sure that Super 16G is usable? By looking at those pics, it looks like a few blades on the compressor wheel are broke, and 1 is bent. Maybe its just my eyes, or the way the picture is angled, but thats what it looks like to me in that picture.

i got the super 16 like that. it wasn't bad at all, and it ran/boosted perfectly, no oil leaks, etc. and held 15psi no problems... the previous owner told me that it's been rebalanced after he found a few lil chips on the fins.. nothing serious...so when i bolted it on, I made sure he was with me on my first few pulls on the freeway... If it was unbalanced, I'm sure it would have blown up ### it spins like 150k RPMs doesn't it?? had it for a few thousand miles, and worked well! I don't have it anymore though... i should have kept it.

mark