Damn man, that really sucks. Only thing you can do is research other options I guess.

the clutch disc looks normal but that pressure plate has taken a beating. my stock pressure plate with 130k miles didn't look that bad

Clutch looks fine to me but, as already said the pressure plate looks beaten.

The thing that sucks bad is I told three freinds I thought it was holding ok in my car so they bought 3500s as well so now there are 3 more people locally that have them that are about to find out their own way.

I'll call SBR on monday and see if they can do anything. I spend alot of money with them like most people so myabe they will do something, maybe. I dunno. The main thing they say about this clutch is heat is it's enemy so in their ad they say the huge heat sink helps releave heat. Riiiigggghhhttt, look at that heat on the PP, and my flywheel looks equally as HOT.

Hmm.. I have this clutch sitting next to me.. How much power are you putting down? I have a fwd which should have about 300fwhp... Should I put this in?

b17tuner said:

Hmm.. I have this clutch sitting next to me.. How much power are you putting down? I have a fwd which should have about 300fwhp... Should I put this in?

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act 2600 with street disc... no problems

Prez said:

The thing that sucks bad is I told three freinds I thought it was holding ok in my car so they bought 3500s as well so now there are 3 more people locally that have them that are about to find out their own way.

I'll call SBR on monday and see if they can do anything. I spend alot of money with them like most people so myabe they will do something, maybe. I dunno. The main thing they say about this clutch is heat is it's enemy so in their ad they say the huge heat sink helps releave heat. Riiiigggghhhttt, look at that heat on the PP, and my flywheel looks equally as HOT.

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They wont do anything to help you out, its not their fault that YOU have a modified car and
YOU like to launch it... also YOU are probably a clutch slipper, which is fine in its own right, but obviously its hard on the clutch.

%!$@ Thats dumb. Why do they claim it as being better than the 2600? Such bullshit.

"Custom SBR Spec Clutches! Less Pedal Pressure than the 2600 and More Clamping Force! " Do you think it will last in my car being lower hp and fwd? Or should I try selling it? I'm tired of cars.

My ACT 2100 has over 150 5500 rpm launches on it and it looked 100x better when I pulled my engine a few weeks ago.

My car 60' s in the 1.7-1.80 range consistently.

I have heard good things about ACT's New 2900 setup.

gsxtacy

Hey, the hub of my ACT street disk (2600 pp) completely fell appart and allowed the springs to jiggle around

I was looking into the SBR clutch and I think I am going to wait to see if this is going to happen to anyone else! That PP looks hammered

xcelr8n said:

They wont do anything to help you out, its not their fault that YOU have a modified car and
YOU like to launch it... also YOU are probably a clutch slipper, which is fine in its own right, but obviously its hard on the clutch.

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1st off I don't really ecpect them to do anything as I understand this is my race car and well race parts usually aren't covered but this line in their AD...

"Custom SBR Spec Clutches! Less Pedal Pressure than the 2600 and More Clamping Force!"

Clearly gives the idea that this is a better option than the ACT2600 when in reality it's not.

And what the hell are you talking about the slipping? Thats what a street disk is for, it slips so when you launch you drivetrain doesn't take the shock. You just don't rev limit the car on a launch then drop the clutch. It's rev to 5K, slip for a split second then drop it the rest they way once it starts grabbing. Thats netted me several 1.7 and low 1.8 60' times with stock drivetrain parts.

I won't be buying another SBR clutch it just doesn't look like it can old what I need it to. I was only running 15PSI on the EVO 16G. And Just the opther day went to 20PSI with upgraded fuel set up but ring lands took a crap before I even got to really get a tune on the 20PSI map. No launches on 20 PSI either.

I had a ACT 2600 on my other TSI and it looked better than this with more launches and more than 15K + miles on it.

I felt the need to share this information with the community because no one has reviewed the SBR3500 after it been installed and used. I'm not bashing SBR as I like their service and will buy more items from them in the future but I will not be buying another SBR 3500 or recomending it.

xcelr8n said:

They wont do anything to help you out, its not their fault that YOU have a modified car and
YOU like to launch it... also YOU are probably a clutch slipper, which is fine in its own right, but obviously its hard on the clutch.

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Well, to put this in perspective for you, the ACT 2600 is rated at just under 400lb/ft of torque. This PP supposedly has more clamping force. This product is designed for what the driver was doing and did not hold up to what it should have. Unless Prez admits to either an installation error or abnormal use of this product, than you cannot say that it is his fault. Who the hell is going to buy a 3500lb clutch and "be nice" to it for fear of it wearing out?

I would say mention this to SBR. If it was just some faulty unit, they should replace it to keep up their reputation and sales of this clutch. If they cannot put the blame on it due to faulty construction, I would hope they give you store credit so that you can buy a new clutch from them.

Good luck.

Wow, I've used two seperate ACT 2600's with the street discs with NO problems whatsoever, have heard the nightmare stories and all but never had it happen to me. Anyway back to the SBR clutch, that thing looks just like crap! After only 6k miles no less?!?!? Wow... WTF

i don't know how well your arguement will hold up with SBR though...

a clutch is like brake pads or tires where the amount of wear greatly depends on how you drive the vehicle. you can easily destroy tires that are meant to last thousands of miles in just a few minutes while doing a burnout.

point being... you have no way of proving that you didn't put excessive abuse on that clutch. so unless you can prove that it was faulty one way or another, i don't see them doing anything to help you out..

good luck though..

Well my 3500 took a permanent vacation after i was finished breaking in my motor. I thought this would be a great investment over a 2600 but i was wrong. As soon as i turned up the boost to 20psi it held for about 15 miles and then started foing south. I started hearing a wierd metallic rattling noise that sounded almost like a spun bearing that would go away after i pushed in the clutch pedal. I took it easy back to my house and about half way there it gave up on me. I should have some pics tomorrow after i get home from work and finish yanking off my tranny. The crappy thing is that i didnt even launch it once and it breaks, I never had this problem with any 2600's. It sucks because i think a stocker would of lasted longer than that. Either i got a bad clutch package or the 3500 isnt up to par with the 2600

Did you break the clutch in or romp on it from the get-go? Just curious.

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Did you break the clutch in or romp on it from the get-go? Just curious.

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Mine got treated very nicelly for 500 miles.

Prez,

Honestly, this looks like normal wear to me. How was the clutch reacting before you dropped the tranny? The heat marks on the PP are normal for a moderate powered awd, especially since your trying to save your drivetrain . The disc itself looks great, very typical for a 6000 mile car and it would not be a problem to reuse. The pressure plate also looks fine, just some heat marks, since obviously a clutch will get hot when it is slipped, thats what it's supposed to do. Scuff the PP with some scotch brite before you put it back in and it will continue to work great for you. FYI, this is the same PP that I use in my 707whp car and it looked exactly the same after removing it for inspection this weekend. Any questions, feel free to ask or call.

Nate
SBR

red91gst said:

Prez,

Honestly, this looks like normal wear to me. How was the clutch reacting before you dropped the tranny? The heat marks on the PP are normal for a moderate powered awd, especially since your trying to save your drivetrain . The disc itself looks great, very typical for a 6000 mile car and it would not be a problem to reuse. The pressure plate also looks fine, just some heat marks, since obviously a clutch will get hot when it is slipped, thats what it's supposed to do. Scuff the PP with some scotch brite before you put it back in and it will continue to work great for you. FYI, this is the same PP that I use in my 707whp car and it looked exactly the same after removing it for inspection this weekend. Any questions, feel free to ask or call.

Nate
SBR

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I was just about to call you. thanks for the reply nate. I will take your advice and put it back in the car. I guess I expected less wear but if you say its alright well I will listen to you since you have seen more of them after usage than I.

The clutch was working good when I pulled it. I'll throw it back in and see what happens. Thanks for the input.

Prez said:

I was just about to call you. thanks for the reply nate. I will take your advice and put it back in the car. I guess I expected less wear but if you say its alright well I will listen to you since you have seen more of them after usage than I.

The clutch was working good when I pulled it. I'll throw it back in and see what happens. Thanks for the input.

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Not problem, keep us informed

Nate
SBR

I used one of SBR clutch disks with my ACT 2600 PP which had about 15k on it when I installed it along with a new ACT Flywheel, with the New SBR disk. After 8k and about 10 12sec 1/4 mile passes, my clutch is completely toast.