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Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

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im building an electric supercharger wont cost much plus gives me something to do while car is still in shop.but the question is has any own in here used one and how did you like it.
i know that you can only get 2psi of boost from them from what i read so far.im gonna try it out on my old mans 94 toyota truck to see what happens.any input on this would but great.(thanks)
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wow, this is one extreme tech thread. try the newbies forum, and your wasting your time and money with that electric supercharger crap.
 
its NOT going to work, 1. Electrial system cant hadle the speeds. 2. plastic fins will shear apart. 3. GHEY
 
those so called "electric superchargers" are just marine bilge pumps. the plastic fins will shear off and go into youre engine and blow stuff up.

however, there is a guy working on a electric motor that drives a eaton m90 supercharger, so thats an electric supercharger. the cool thing about the electric motor vs standard belt driven is that the electric motor can vary its speed, so that it can be slower and have less boost and then turn the boost up as the rpm's go up. i forgot where i got the link from, but it was a good read. he has a few of the M70 electric driven SC's he used on a few of his MN12 Tbird SC's and had good results with it.
 
I was sure we'd driven a great, huge wooden spike through the heart of this vampiric idea.

Even if not, I'm doing it again.

For more details, do a search for "electric supercharger"

They're crap.
 
Anyone ever try this, making your own electric supercharger... THAT WORKS??? I see a couple guides that you have to pay for to be taught how to make one... but i wondered if anyone tried, or knew how to?
 
You could weld a leaf blower to your hood. cut a hole in the hood and run the blower in to the throttle body. When that Civic Type R pulls up next to you, all you gotta do it jump out of your car... run to the front... make 10 pulls to finally get your blower started.... hop back in your car.... and kick his @$$...










come on people.... hairdryers belong in the bathroom
 
Bwahahahahahahah, someone once asked me a question about nitrous & it was really stupid....I think it was a Miami DSM board & some Honda owner posting...Anyways he asked something about setting up nitrous. I said here's what you do, take 2 nozzles put one on your exhaust manifold & one on the tip of your muffler....When you spray it might even spit out fire, he replies Really? OMG and everyone was like :laugh: :p
 
There is a guy who makes electric superchargers that do work. They arent the type you see on ebay or anything. These are actual superchargers. They are the screw type like people put on the old V8's. I cant remember what the name is for them but anyway yes he makes them except they are really expensive and take A LOT of electric power to run. You can't just hook them up to your battery and away you go. Also it is made for short bursts kind of like nitrous. You might try to type in electric supercharger in google and find it. You will know when you find it if there is a guy holding a big looking supercharger with 3 large electrode thingys on it. Its nothing like those crappy ones on ebay.
 
thanks to you guys who responded without being a flamer... as for you guys who posted crap like, they don't work and yada yada... think outside the box guys... instead of complaining about em... maybe try making one that works... you all rag on em so much... but if someone could make one that actually works, imagine it as some person like you comes up and is all like... oh look at this newb... than you race em and they rip you up... yeah... kinda embarassing right?
 
IceDragon said:
thanks to you guys who responded without being a flamer... as for you guys who posted crap like, they don't work and yada yada... think outside the box guys...
Well, it's not a matter of there being a "box" to think outside of, it's that pesky "physics" thing.

Have you read about how Knight's electric supercharger works? You get a brief, nitrous-like (very brief) assist from it, then the battery put in just to run it needs to be re-charged.

You see, we're horribly spoiled by gasoline and diesel. Whether from decaying organic material or generated by as-yet-unrealized machinations inside the planet, that gallon of oil you're rocketing through took years of the sun's energy to create here. Now you want to add "only" fifty horsepower to those thousands of years you've stashed in the gas tank. It won't be free. If you try to do it by means of a mechanically-driven rather than exhaust-turbine supercharger, it's going to take about 40% of its benefit to create. You can't do that with your alternator unless you resort to a Knight-like scheme of gathering it over time into a battery and whooshing it out faster than it came in.
instead of complaining about em...
The "complaint" is that they can't work.
maybe try making one that works...
Did you ever think of hooking up a generator to a motor that'd run the generator? This is the paradox you're up against.

When you pop the hoods at the Dairy Queen and look at what's going on with the fast cars, how many electric superchargers do you see? How many people are working on developing them?

Can you find the hidden clue?
you all rag on em so much...
We find rags about the best thing to use when wiping up shit.
but if someone could make one that actually works,
Knight has. It's expensive, and doesn't work that well. It takes three starter motors to run, an extra battery to power it, and costs more than a turbocharging setup.
imagine it as some person like you comes up and is all like... oh look at this newb... than you race em and they rip you up... yeah... kinda embarassing right?
Ah, so you're hoping for some kind of ego-payoff, better-than-you, admire-me-I'm-glorious return on racing.

Give up, you've already lost. Winning racers don't have any ego about it. It's too much damned work to enjoy. Kind of like an electric supercharger.
 
all i originally asked was if anyone knew how to, since they have the guides on the internet for like 10 or 15 dollars... and if they did to explain it... and noone really answered yet...
 
Why don't YOU invent one that works. Put a turbine in the exhaust system that connects to a generator. The generator can then power up an electric motor with a compressor wheel in the intake. Use a voltage regulator as a wastegate and a soleniod for a bov.

That way you are not robbing the engine of power to make electricity to make more power. You can't get more energy out than you put in, so trying to run something off from your alternator will never gain power, it's impossible. 1 horsepower is equal to 746 watts. The bigger the motor you use, the more horsepower the alternator will rob from your engine to put out enough watts to power the motor. Any gains made by this type of setup will be lost again through turning the alternator. Since no motor is 100% efficient, you probably lose power.

If you run a generator off the exhaust, you can use the normally wasted energy in the exhaust gases to power your electric motor and thus create pressure in the intake by recycling energy. In escence you have created an "electric turbocharger" hahahahaha.

Just my opinion, I haven't sat down to calculate all the forces involved in either setup because I just don't have the time or motivation.
 
That's probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard. You're not robbing the engine of power to make electricity? How about introducing a huge restriction in the exhaust that would probably cause the engine to run like complete ass, or not at all. That generator isn't going to be easy to turn, it's not like a turbocharger where all it has to do is whip up some air. You're cranking a god damn generator. And the generator would have to be pretty damn big and heavy to do what you're suggesting. But in your world this generator would just turn itself, huh? And you also forgot that generators aren't the most efficient thing for producing electricity.

Great invention, hurry and get that patent. :thumb:
 
So you probably think that it doesn't require any force to turn an alternator. If you knew anything about electricity and power, you would know that it takes 1hp to produce 746 watts in a 100% efficient system(which in a car is enough to get you about 50amps). The more electricity you need to get out of an alternator or generator, the more force it requires to turn it. How do you think you get electricity at your house? You think you can just take a little lawnmower engine and turn a generator to make all that power? hell you can only run a few things on a generator like that, let alone power a whole city. It takes more energy to turn the generators at a power plant then you get out in the form of electricity.


And I wasn't serious about the "electric turbocharger" that's why I laughed after I said that.
 
92redman said:
The more electricity you need to get out of an alternator or generator, the more force it requires to turn it.
That's the point of my whole post. :rolleyes:

92redman said:
And I wasn't serious about the "electric turbocharger" that's why I laughed after I said that.
I sure thought you were serious. Oh well, it's still a retarded idea.
 
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