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05-30-2008, 02:26 PM
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Getting Ready for the 2008 - 2009 Series
Now I know it is not even June yet and the end of the year seems so far away but for me its probably going to be cutting it close to getting the car ready to go for another stint in the Grand Bayou Race Series. With the 2007 - 2008 series behind (2nd overall in my class in my rookie year), its time to turn our heads to the upcoming series which will begin on October 3rd - 5th this year. We have come to the conclusion that 184.1 to the wheels just is no where near enough power to be competetive this season. So I called around and sent out ALLOT of E-Mails to guys that have either raced DSMs or work on them daily. Too many people to name so I won't even go there. We settled on a setup that will consist of an EVO III 'Big' 16G Turbo, Dejon Big SMIC, Eagle Rods, Forged ITM Pistons (.020 over), ARPs all the way through, BC Valves, Springs & Retainers, FP Race Manifold and a new wideband. We are looking at trying to produce around 300 whp and maybe a little more. With the car now being at its lightest with everything taken out that has nothing to do with the car running gone. 300 whp should be a nice powerplant for the car.
I want to take some time also here in the begining to thank some of the companies and people that make all of this possible. Luda (Chris) here on DSMTuners for giving me the opportunity to share in my racing experiences with all the DSM commnunity. Everyone at Red Line Oil for coming on board as a sponsor late last year and all year this series. Marti Ruiz at VIP Garage for always getting me the parts I need to make sure this thing stops on the track  Which is always a big plus. Its not always about going fast, its allot of times about being able to stop fast too. Jimmy Barnes and Danny at Fighters Garage here locally in Pensacola. Always making sure that the car is in top running order for my each round of the series. They are also doing the engine build for the new motor this series. Thanks guys. And last and certainly not least....Everyone on this discussion board for all of your kind words, encouragment and messages throughout my rookie season and beyond. It was always nice to get the E-Mails, PMs and resposnses to all my write-ups last series. A very HUGE THANK YOU to everyone on DSMTuners.com. DSMers are the VERY best !!!
Now on with the show. I went up to Fighters Garge today to see Jimmy and the boys had gotten the rest of the "junk" out that no longer has a need in the car and also the motor had been pulled. I did a survey of what all I could do in the meantime and its just some minor repair work to the front of the car where in a practice session I got a little too close to a BMW and we bumped around a bit. Theres about a 10 inch tear in the front bumper so I am either going to do some light fiberglass work or do the old zip tie stich up job on it. We'll see about that this weekend. Other than that its just some phone calls to be made to try and secure some more funding as well as some roll cage peices for this season. Like I said, we are looking to get around 300 + whp out of the new engine so hopefully that will take us from running 1:28 laptimes down around the 1:24 and under relm for this season. Some more suspension work to be done depending on how much the labor on the engine build will cost. But we will see on that a little later in June when thet get closer to being finished with it. Then the break in process most likely on the dyno and we will see what we can come up with. Hopefully it will be running and tuned up before July rolls around so I can hit Road Atlanta once and get in 2 maybe 3 testing sessions at No Problem Raceway before the series kicks off in October. But until then, here a few pics from todays trip to the shop.

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05-30-2008, 06:19 PM
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Great thread man. You going with a evo 3 set up. This makes me wonder if going with a 30r would be a little too big for our california tracks 
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05-30-2008, 06:38 PM
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Are you just adding these so you can rev a little higher? Or are there some cams in the works too?
2) Are you jumping up a class? I remember reading one of your event posts and that you were too fast for the class you were in on your stock turbo.
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05-30-2008, 09:59 PM
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Great thread man. You going with a evo 3 set up. This makes me wonder if going with a 30r would be a little too big for our california tracks 
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Thanks chavez. Yeah, it seems to be the general thoughts that this; EVO III setup, would be the best for road racing for me. Along with the Dejon SDMIC. I have never raced on any of the tracks in Cali. yet so I could not comment on the 30R setup for you man sorry.
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Two questions:
1)Are you just adding these so you can rev a little higher? Or are there some cams in the works too?
2) Are you jumping up a class? I remember reading one of your event posts and that you were too fast for the class you were in on your stock turbo.
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BoostFrenzy -
1) Just to have the ability to rev a but higher 1st and formost and if some funding inqueries come through, then yes, cams too. But we will have to waqit and see on that one.
2) Not jumping classes, just moving up in my class. The way the bracket Sports Touring class works is no different than drag bracket racing. You have to stay within a certain time frame or you "break out". Same thing here with us on the road circuit. My bracket (Blue) had to stay over 1:30 or risk breaking out and getting docked a lap. I did it a few times but never in the feature race where they would take a lap and perhaps cost you the race. My fastest lap at No Problem is a 1:28, so I am hoping to be in the "fastest" bracket (Red) and go no faster than 1:23. Should be able to be in the 1:26 - 1:24 range after the enigne is ready to go. I hope this clears it up a little bit for you 
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05-31-2008, 08:35 AM
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lookin good eddie!
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05-31-2008, 09:14 PM
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I'm a firm believer in the Evo III setup for road racing..I get a nice pull off the corners with little lag. And so far it has been very reliable. And apparently you can boost the hell out of it though I have no experience with this. There may be a better setup out there bit I wouldn't go any bigger unless you were allowed to install anti-lag.
As a reference I Mustang dyno at 205 whp with 12 lbs of boost on a 16G with a stock bottom end, tired stock top end and open exhaust.
Oh and start early as you can on the pre-race stuff...the season ALWAYS comes way too fast! 
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05-31-2008, 09:28 PM
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i agree, the evoIII 16g is an awesome turbo. There really is not much for DBB 50 trim road race turbos anymore. FP had their FP2455 that spooled nearly like stock but flowed like 42lbs or something. But FP has not made that turbo for a long time, not sure why either, i'd love to pickup one of those turbo's.
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05-31-2008, 09:57 PM
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Not jumping classes, just moving up in my class. The way the bracket Sports Touring class works is no different than drag bracket racing
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Brackets right right right. That's what I forgot. Been a while since I read one of your event posts. Good luck with the funding hunt man 
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06-01-2008, 12:24 AM
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I'm a firm believer in the Evo III setup for road racing..I get a nice pull off the corners with little lag. And so far it has been very reliable. And apparently you can boost the hell out of it though I have no experience with this. There may be a better setup out there bit I wouldn't go any bigger unless you were allowed to install anti-lag.
As a reference I Mustang dyno at 205 whp with 12 lbs of boost on a 16G with a stock bottom end, tired stock top end and open exhaust.
Oh and start early as you can on the pre-race stuff...the season ALWAYS comes way too fast! 
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You are SOOOO right on the season coming fast Dave. It seems to me like I just ran the last round and now I am getting ready for another season. But as much as I researched the EVO III setup I believe it will be the best setup for what I am trying to acomplish.
Also, its not just all about the car getting setup and ready for next series. Its getting the pit equipment ready, the trailer, the hauler, all the tools, air compressors, air tools, hotels, fuel cans, hoses, power cords, etc. etc. There is ALOT that goes into the season and each race before I even think about the car. But I'm sure you know exactly where I am coming from. I usually put in about 10 - 15 hours of work the week before an event just getting everything but the car ready for the event. Making sure I have hotel reservations, mechanics money, food, drinks, all pit equipment ready....Many things go into getting ready and fully prepared for a race weekend I think people over look. Its not all just about the car and you. But it is ALL worth it !!!
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i agree, the evoIII 16g is an awesome turbo. There really is not much for DBB 50 trim road race turbos anymore. FP had their FP2455 that spooled nearly like stock but flowed like 42lbs or something. But FP has not made that turbo for a long time, not sure why either, i'd love to pickup one of those turbo's.
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I'm not sure either why FP doesnt offer that turbo anymore. Maybe a supply and demand issue  Not sure.
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Brackets right right right. That's what I forgot. Been a while since I read one of your event posts. Good luck with the funding hunt man 
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No big deal man. It has been almost 3 months since I wrote a race report up on the series. Thanks for the thumbs up on funding as well....I need ALL the help I can get  
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06-04-2008, 07:43 AM
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Then the break in process most likely on the dyno and we will see what we can come up with. Hopefully it will be running and tuned up before July rolls around so I can hit Road Atlanta once and get in 2 maybe 3 testing sessions at No Problem Raceway before the series kicks off in October. But until then, here a few pics from todays trip to the shop
Please let us know what you run around Road Atlanta? That track is not to far away from where I am going to be moving back to (my home state) and I would like to have a time from a fellow DSMer to compare.
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Then the break in process most likely on the dyno and we will see what we can come up with. Hopefully it will be running and tuned up before July rolls around so I can hit Road Atlanta once and get in 2 maybe 3 testing sessions at No Problem Raceway before the series kicks off in October. But until then, here a few pics from todays trip to the shop
Please let us know what you run around Road Atlanta? That track is not to far away from where I am going to be moving back to (my home state) and I would like to have a time from a fellow DSMer to compare.
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Yeah no big deal man. I can look around in my logbooks and try to find some older times on the old setup. I dont know if that would help you any but I think it was around the 2:15 mark if I remember correctly. I would have to look those up. But if I get the chance to head up there I will have someone with a watch 
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06-09-2008, 03:17 PM
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Alright so another progress report here. They got the head off and most everything else (except tranny) in preperation to send off to the machine shop. Local race shop Coastal Machine Shop will be doing the rebuild on the short block. Heat tank everything they can and build the motor for me. Should be around a 3-4 day process they said from the day they get it from my garage.
Going to bore it out anywhere from 0.10 - .030 depending on what they see. The cylinder walls looked good when they pulled the head so I wouldnt imagine much work will need to be done. Just freshen up the cylinder walls, new bearings and she will be ready go go back together Built. Of course, things could change once the machine shop sees the block for themselves. But I dont see much changing in what will be happening to the block. It looked better than I actually thought it would for being an almost all stock internal engine after a full race series on it. Snapped a few pics this afternoon when I stopped by the shop.

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06-11-2008, 03:02 PM
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New update from the machine shop today. Cylinder walls in the block were much better than they originally thought before seeing them. Talked to them today and they just hoaned the block putting the cross hatch back in the cylinder walls. Ordered my new ACL Tri-Metal Main & Rod Race Bearings today and gasket kit as well. Should be here on Monday or Tuesday. So now hopefully the engine can be all done and built by the middle of next week. Then back to the shop to put the tranny back on it and back into the car.
The build is right on time (knock on wood) right now as I planned. Nothing has come up as of yet. It has gone realitivly smooth all the way around. So with nothing huge arising in the build or putting it back in, we should be ready to tune and test by the end of June 1st part of July  
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New update from the machine shop today. Cylinder walls in the block were much better than they originally thought before seeing them. Talked to them today and they just hoaned the block putting the cross hatch back in the cylinder walls. Ordered my new ACL Tri-Metal Main & Rod Race Bearings today and gasket kit as well. Should be here on Monday or Tuesday. So now hopefully the engine can be all done and built by the middle of next week. Then back to the shop to put the tranny back on it and back into the car.
The build is right on time (knock on wood) right now as I planned. Nothing has come up as of yet. It has gone realitivly smooth all the way around. So with nothing huge arising in the build or putting it back in, we should be ready to tune and test by the end of June 1st part of July  
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good to hear eddie, hopefully everything goes together smooth and you wont have any hick-ups.
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