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Old 04-01-2008, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Driving Instruction Vids?

I was enjoying a brisk drive in the hills with my manual steering equiped DSM when I realised that not everyone knows what to do with their hands in low speed, sharp corners. So I thought about making a vid to show how to handle manual steering when the road gets very curvy. And then I thought, 'I wonder if there's already some vids out there?' So...

Does anyone know of some good driving instruction videos? These can be either DVD's to purchase, or snippets on Youtube. I figure that members browsing this forum might gain some quick skills by using visual learning. Thanks!
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I managed to get my hands on an old Skip Barber video some time back. Believe it was called 'Going Faster'. Some really good pointers in there, but nothing....absolutely nothing, will beat true seat time with an instructor. All the videos in the world cannot relay the 'feel' to which you are trying to attain or react to. And I certainly don't recommend trying to learn limits of a car or yourself on public roads. Keep it on the track
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I managed to get my hands on an old Skip Barber video some time back. Believe it was called 'Going Faster'. Some really good pointers in there, but nothing....absolutely nothing, will beat true seat time with an instructor. All the videos in the world cannot relay the 'feel' to which you are trying to attain or react to. And I certainly don't recommend trying to learn limits of a car or yourself on public roads. Keep it on the track
also i'd like to ad, its boring to just watch, get in the driver's seat and give it a try. 100X more fun and MUCH easier to learn hands-on. Have an instructor ride along to give you some pointers.


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Haha...very good point. That video was quite a bore and only was somewhat interesting because I could relate to what they were trying to teach. Otherwise I might as well been sitting in a Women's psychological mindset course.
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I agree that nothing beats seat time. However pneumo has a good point. It might be beneficial for some of our members to watch and learn a little at first.


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I realise most members in this forum already have some good experience, but what about the newbies? That's the level of instruction I was refering to. Not everyone will go out to an autox to find an instructor.

I remember sitting in a Bondurant HPDE classroom thinking, 'I don't need to be here, I already know how to drive fast.' After all, every single male driver on the planet thinks he's a natural born racecar driver, right? Unfortunately, making a car go fast is a learned skill that also takes plenty of practice.

Watching the instructer show what to do with your hands on the wheel before, during, and after the corner was eye opening! He showed what to do with the brake and gas pedals, and when. He taught things I never would've thought of; little things that make a difference when pushing the car beyond it's limits. My driving became good in a hurry, thanks to formal teaching. I thought others would benefit from the same type of instruction.
I'm still thinking of making a brief in-car vid with some basic narration.
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Lets look at it from another angle. A student who has seen some basic or mid level techniques could be getting into a car with even more pre-conceptions than just his or her 'natural talent'. It's harder to learn without an open mind and there's plenty to tackle as a new student. Kinda like starting out with 400HP and Hoosiers.

Don't get me wrong, no one's debating whether or not classroom instruction is beneficial. Just at what point is it introduced.
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I realise most members in this forum already have some good experience, but what about the newbies? That's the level of instruction I was refering to. Not everyone will go out to an autox to find an instructor.

I remember sitting in a Bondurant HPDE classroom thinking, 'I don't need to be here, I already know how to drive fast.' After all, every single male driver on the planet thinks he's a natural born racecar driver, right? Unfortunately, making a car go fast is a learned skill that also takes plenty of practice.

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I'm still thinking of making a brief in-car vid with some basic narration.
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Thanks for the interest. I made a camera mount for the car last week and did a little driving. Unfortunately I must've pushed the camera a little when I turned it on because the vid only shows half of the steering wheel.

I'll try again soon. I hope I don't suk
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im interested in a video dave! Lord knows i need some help with my twisty driving now that i have my suspension installed and fixed.

Post up a video when you make it and i'll learn something for sure! Either that or take me for a ride in that beast!


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