Help with timing belt/post timing belt starting issues

[Luni420]

Ok. So we had the head sent to the machine shop, basically put back to OEM stock specs, new seals and all that crap. We got new pulleys and a timing belt. We put the timing belt on. The car ran. We drove it to the store and it died. We assumed it slipped out of time or something cause the belt was kinda loose. So we redo the belt (In the damn parking lot) and it still dont start. We have spark, and we have fuel. What do you guys think it could be?

Its possible its flooded because we have tried ALOT to start it.

But is there something easily overlooked on a timing belt/head gasket type job? Anyone got any insight as to whats going on?

This is on a 90 Eclipse GSX by the way.

The marks are lined up on the crank and the oil unit, and the 2 cams dots are facing up, and the 4 marks on the insides and outsides of the cams are all lined up in a line, so everything lines up properly.

We have the chiltons repair manual and it appears to be correct.

ANYONE?

 

[leet]

Is the CAS 180 off?

 

[Luni420]

How could I tell if it is 180 degrees off?

It just sits there, We can adjust it up and down and it dont matter.

And because it dont start now, we have no idea if the thing is even in the right place cause we cant check the ig timing with a timing light.

 

[turboholic]

-What happen before the motor die? did it knock or make any noise, after that, it won't start, did it crank? what do you mean you can't check the timing with a timing light?

 

[Luni420]

He said the car was having hard time keeping idling. It was hard for him to keep it on. then it died.

Is it possible to check timing without the car being on? Cause if we can do that we will try that.

 

[turboholic]

-Yes, make sure all the marks are line up.

 

[Luni420]

No I think you misunderstood.

The cars mechanical timing isnt an issue. We checked the marks 3 times after repeatedly trying to start it. Yes the marks all line up. Its mechanically timed.

 

[me612]

check the CAS, you can tell if its 180 out by taking it off and making sure the correct flap is lined up with the timing dot. im not to great at explaining, so check out this pic

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see how the flap that is lined up with the dot kinda has an indentation on it, and the other one is just solid. Make sure when your #1 cyl is TDC, that u set the CAS just like it is in the picture. also make sure ur oil pump sprocket is not 360 out. that's sumthin i didn't know about at first but found out lateron after i had ####ed up my 1st attempted t-belt change

 

[RoasT BeeF]

If the CAS was 180 off it would have never even started so I doubt that is the problem. If the oil sprocket was 360 out the car would still run, it would just shake like a mofo so I dont think thats it either. You are sure you are getting spark and fuel? How did you check it?

Only other things I can think of are to check your compression...if the belt was loose it very well may have slipped and bent valves...and just look around and see if any sensors may have come unplugged or loose. Check the ECU as well.