Timing only

[JMiller]

Im installing some comp cams and i tried the quick cam install and messed up the timing a little i DID NOT start the car i manually turned it over and found out the timing was off. The belt is good and i was wondering if i could just take the belt off line up the oil pump w/ the timing marks, line up the crankshaft w/ timing marks, and line up the cams with the marks and then put the belt back one. Or do i need to do more. Also what do i need to do w/ the balance shaft if anything.

 

[luv2rallye]

Follow exactly: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/timingbelt-2G.html

 

[JMiller]

I have that printed out and started earlier today and i was just wondering if there was anything that they might have left out or if anyone had any tips to getting everything lined up perfectly.(Any real pictures/videos of someone installing a timing belt would be great). Thanks.

 

[JMiller]

Also what is the special tool no. MD-998738

 

[turbosax2]

Buy one:
Jay Racing Timing Belt Tool, Compress Hydraulic Tensioner [TBT1] - $10.00 : Jay Racing

Make one:
Timing Tool
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/timingbeltNOTE1.html

Or use this method:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...5-timing-belt-tensioning-tips-4g63-turbo.html

 

[slim2005]

i got some pics of my timing i just did i will post for you tomorrow afternoon or evening if that'll be ok. i have close ups that should help you i hope.

 

[turbosax2]

Here's another great vfaq:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...l-installing-timing-timing-belt-6bolt-2g.html

 

[luv2rallye]

I have that printed out and started earlier today and i was just wondering if there was anything that they might have left out or if anyone had any tips to getting everything lined up perfectly.(Any real pictures/videos of someone installing a timing belt would be great). Thanks.

Pay particular attention to steps 24 and 33.

 

[JMiller]

slim2005 the pics would be great and i have to wait awhile to finish because i need to get my intake cam threaded for the cas, and thanks luv2rallye i will.

 

[kenamond]

Pay particular attention to steps 24 and 33.

Sorry to hijack a bit here (maybe it'll help the OP), but I was wondering why the exhaust cam gear gets off one tooth if you lay the tbelt on the intake and exhaust cams with the in-between portion of the belt straight and tight, and then bulldog-clamp the belt to both cam gears. I can see that if you have slack in the belt between the cam gears that the exhaust cam gear could be off a tooth, but I think it would be obvious when you first put the tbelt on the gears. And if you put wrenches on both gear bolts and pull the belt tight with the exhaust off one tooth, wouldn't you notice the timing marks go off? I'm thinking of digging in to the front of my motor for the first time, have been reading a lot of this stuff, and have been wondering about the exhaust cam gear issue. Thanks!

 

[Droptop Spyda]

Hey Guys I had a quick question.
I followed the directions in my Chilton Manual and the VFAQ procedure on 7 bolt timing and think I have it right. I looked through the forums for good pics of the cheesy 7 - Bolt crank timing mark. Didn't find a whole lot. But from what I read I think I have dialed in. I believe the dowel pin on the crank should be at 3 oclock and the crank sensor plate " V " notch lines up with the tick mark in the case. I can rotate the crank with the timing belt in place and the timing on the cam gears line up, nothing hits on the piston to valve clearance. My question is once I put the timing belt cover on, should the timing grooves on the balancer line up with the cover BTDC markings? I realize that the marks on the balancer are for ignition timing and not cam timing, but I wanted to be sure before I try to run the motor. With the Cams timing lined up , the crank timing lined up and the oil pump timing lined up, and the crank dowel pin at 3 oclock my balancer groove timing marks are no where near the BTDC marker on the Timing belt cover.

 

[steve]

I can't see the dowel pin on the intake cam and the exhaust one seems way advanced. Edit. I can't see either dowel pin, please double check that they are facing up when you match the cam marks.
The dampner isn't new so you need to check it's marks against piston TDC just to make sure the crank mark is correct. Right now I'd think the dampner is junk and the outer ring has slipped.

 

[slim2005]

heres the crank and such

 

[slim2005]

heres the cam and balance shaft.. if this helps let the higher up ppl here know so i get some props

 

[slim2005]

use a piece of paper to make sure that everything is straight on the cams... good luck man

 

[Epic904]

Sorry to hijack a bit here (maybe it'll help the OP), but I was wondering why the exhaust cam gear gets off one tooth if you lay the tbelt on the intake and exhaust cams with the in-between portion of the belt straight and tight, and then bulldog-clamp the belt to both cam gears. I can see that if you have slack in the belt between the cam gears that the exhaust cam gear could be off a tooth, but I think it would be obvious when you first put the tbelt on the gears. And if you put wrenches on both gear bolts and pull the belt tight with the exhaust off one tooth, wouldn't you notice the timing marks go off? I'm thinking of digging in to the front of my motor for the first time, have been reading a lot of this stuff, and have been wondering about the exhaust cam gear issue. Thanks!

I believe when on tdc the exhaust cam is opening or closing the valve so the force of the spring on the exhaust is pushing the cam timing off by just that tooth. If you have the tool it helps alieviate the problem or you could just use a wrench on the exhaust cam and have someone hold it in place until you get the belt on both gears then either zip tie them down or use clips to hold the belt in place.

 

[JMiller]

Thanks for the help everyone but my dad is going to pay somone to do it this week cause he bought me the car and he doesnt want to see it get messed up(bent valves, blown, etc.) Im pretty sure i could put it back together myself but since im not paying for it i dont mind.