hey guys, new dsm owner here

[sobutter]

i recently bought a 96 rs and immediately took it to hawaii mitsubishi to get a diagnostic.
well unfortunately they said that the fuel pump and power steering pump is bad, and the head gasket is leaking.

well my dad already purchased the fuel and power steering pump for $400 from mitsubishi. and they quoted us at $1700 to get both of those done. tomorrow my dad is going to get quotes from other shops because that is just too much for us to spend.

what i want to know is, do you think that my dad and I, with pretty much zero knowledge of cars, can replace the fuel and power steering pump by ourselves? I'm looking at the vfaq right now to replace fuel pumps, and though they don't have the replacement procedure for stock fuel pumps, it doesn't look much different. the only part that looks relatively difficult is going under the car is disconnecting a hose.

my dad doesn't want me to replace the fuel pump even with pictures on how to do it, he insists we take it to a shop. can somebody please give me some confidence so I can try to do this by myself?

any feedback will be greatly appreciated. thanks

 

[gthompson97]

if you have a "family mechanic" or someone else that you could take it to it would be much cheaper that way. mitsu. dealers are always looking to make the most money out of you so they will replace things that sometimes don't even need to be replaced.

how does the car run? if it runs fine and the power steering pump isn't making any noises or causing any problems, i wouldn't worry about anything. if it's not broken, don't fix it. i would personally never get anything fixed at a mitsu. dealer unless it's a recall and they are paying for every last penny.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Welcome.

The two jobs are very simple and straight forward. With the help of this site you guys can easily do the jobs with little to no problem. Let us know when you're ready .

Disconnecting the hose underneath the car really isn't hard at all so don't worry about that. It takes alittle bit of elbow grease, but again, relatively simple.

 

[Catbox_95]

Does the car run OK? Fuel pumps either work or they don't. If the car runs fine, leave it alone and save the money. Same goes for the power steering pump. Does the steering wheel turn easily? Is the power steering pump whining a lot? These are the real diagnostics that aren't going to cost you a cent.

That dealership is looking to make a quick buck.

 

[sobutter]

thanks for the quick replies.. yes the car does run fine. i don't know if this has to do with the fuel pump, but the first time i filled up my gas tank, the pump didn't stop pumping gas until it overflowed, is that a fuel pump failure?

and for the power steering pump, i honestly don't know which part that is but i just bought a chilton's repair manual, and will try to look and see if vfaq has a power steering pump replacement article.

unfortunately my dad already bought both of the pumps from mitsubishi, so I'm gonna replace them if it's bad or not

again, thanks for the quick replies

 

[DSMcrazy3]

thanks for the quick replies.. yes the car does run fine. i don't know if this has to do with the fuel pump, but the first time i filled up my gas tank, the pump didn't stop pumping gas until it overflowed, is that a fuel pump failure?

That would be failure on the gas pump itself, that the station owns. There is some sort of device that knows when to stop pumping, I'm guessing some sort of pressure sensor. It does not have anything to do with the fuel pump in your car though.

and for the power steering pump, i honestly don't know which part that is but i just bought a chilton's repair manual, and will try to look and see if vfaq has a power steering pump replacement article.

Pop the hood on the left side of the engine, you will see the top of a belt alittle in front of the motor itself, the pulley it rests on is for the power steering pump.

unfortunately my dad already bought both of the pumps from mitsubishi, so I'm gonna replace them if it's bad or not

again, thanks for the quick replies

That's what I was thinking when people were saying to save the money if it's fine. You could possibly wait on installation. Definitely don't pay someone to do it. Go ahead and drive the car, assuming it runs fine, wait until they need replacing, by that time you should have some basic knowledge down granted you visit the site frequently and do your reading and you should be just fine doing a job like that yourself, saving on labor.

Goodluck, and welcome again.

 

[twitch1447]

the pump didn't stop pumping gas until it overflowed, is that a fuel pump failure?

No the fuel pump is what takes the fuel from the tank to the engine.....How far in you have the nozzle or don't have the nozzle will cause that...used to happen on my car if i did not put the pump nozzle in all the way.

And welcome


(just noticed it is in the post above also...submitted while i was typing i guess. )

 

[gthompson97]

the tank overflowing is a problem with the gas station's overflow shut-off. again, i would say if they aren't broken, don't fix them. return the parts and save the money, or put it into something else, like maybe a nice short ram and some exhaust parts.

as for the location of the power steering pump...when your looking at the engine from the front of the car, it's on the left side. it's the first pulley you see for the serpentine belt, that's the power steering pump.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

it's a little black canister.

I think I pretty much covered it..

BUT, what you're referring to is the power steering pump fluid reservoir

 

[gthompson97]

I think I pretty much covered it..

BUT, what you're referring to is the power steering pump fluid reservoir

haha i know, noticed how i edited it, i wasn't thinking straight at the MOMENT . and when i started writing this post, no one's else's replies were there, i think we all wrote them at the same time.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

i think we all wrote them at the same time.

Nope mine(post #6) has 10 minutes on yours(post#10). J'k though it's all good.

 

[gthompson97]

Nope mine(post #6) has 10 minutes on yours(post#10). J'k though it's all good.

you must have a faster internet than i do

 

[BigRand]

The pump itself, is connected to that pulley on the in the same area as the canister, you can't really miss it. It either needs fluid or the belt is off.

If you want to know if ## pump is working or not, at idle, just sit there, and turn the wheel, If you have to put a lot of muscle into it, chances are you need fluid or the belt is off, then the pump might not be working.

If your parents have a new car around, do the same with their car and compare. It should really be a difference if your pump isn't working.

 

[sobutter]

well guys, i just got the receipt from the mitsubishi diagnostic and here it is.

trouble codes, P0551, P0445, P0442. found evap leak, canister assy damaged and fuel lines pinched. power steering pump switch broken and also connector wires frayed. fuel tank damaged.

the car is in the shop (another small shop, not the dealership) getting the fuel and power steering pump changed, the mechanic said the relay for the power steering pump was bad, my dad asked them if they could just replace that, but mitsubishi said you had to buy the whole pump, so my dad did and now it's getting replaced at another place.

can anyone help me with these trouble codes, and what the evap leak and canister assy is, and how my fuel lines are pinched.

i want to get my new dsm running right, thanks guys

 

[DSMcrazy3]

well guys, i just got the receipt from the mitsubishi diagnostic and here it is.

trouble codes, P0551, P0445, P0442. found evap leak, canister assy damaged and fuel lines pinched. power steering pump switch broken and also connector wires frayed. fuel tank damaged.

the car is in the shop (another small shop, not the dealership) getting the fuel and power steering pump changed, the mechanic said the relay for the power steering pump was bad, my dad asked them if they could just replace that, but mitsubishi said you had to buy the whole pump, so my dad did and now it's getting replaced at another place.

can anyone help me with these trouble codes, and what the evap leak and canister assy is, and how my fuel lines are pinched.

i want to get my new dsm running right, thanks guys

P0551 - There is a push on style connector on the front of the power steering pump. First make sure that is connected. It's not going to hurt anything. All that switch does is monitor changes in pressure within the pump though. So when the ecu detects a pressure spike (increased load on the pump from turning) it can adjust the idle air motor so that your RPM doesn't drop.

P0445/P0442 - From my understanding if you have one of these codes, you will have the other. P0445 is "Leak in EVAP system detected" while P0442 is, "EVAP small leak detected". If it's at a shop the mechanic should know what to check, and you shouldn't get the car back with those codes. Unless you told him not to fix those problems. Which I don't know why you would.

If you get the car back with the codes you will want to look behind the bumper under the fender on the passenger side and you will see a small black canister. Make sure all the lines on the top of that are connected and still sealing. That could be where the problem is coming from.

 

[cb3016]

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