low clutch engagement question. i already searched

[bottledgt]

ok, the car was like this(1G turbo) when i bought it. the clutch works fine, its actually a new one from the zone, but it releases a 1/2 inch off the floor. i thought it was a slave or m cylinder problem, so i replaced both of those. i got nothing better than what i had. i took the tranny out, cause i needed to go through it cause it was grinding. while i had it out, i shimmed the pivot ball another 1/8th inch. i put it all back in. then the tranny was fine and shifted great due to rebuilding it, but the clutch pedal is exactly the same. so then i checked to see how much the fork was moving. on the external part of the fork you can see it moves 3/8ths of an inch when i have someone push it in and let off of it. i would think it should move more but no amount of shimming the pivot can cure that. thing is , ive replaced the whole system and no change. and ive done all the adjusting the M/C rod in and out with no change. and there is no play in the clutch pedal. also, the pedal on this thing never really does get as hard as a clutch pedal should. i mean the gas pedal is harder to push than the clutch. you can push it in with your hand. anybody had this problem? im very mechanically inclined, but this thing is kickin my ass. also, the car is totally stock.PS the clutch fork is not bent either. i think the problem lies in that the fork is only being pushed out 3/8ths an inch, but i cant figure out why it wont go any more. if anybody has an insight on how much it should move let me know

 

[92awddsm]

Did to try to bleed the system? that sounds like the problem.

 

[bottledgt]

i have bled it till im blue in the face. that was my though too, so i kept on bleeding ,even trying different ways to bleed it. i used the one man bleeder you can get at autozone, with the hose connected to the bottle that you mount higher than what you're bleeding. ive always used this and not had a problem. i also used the ole hose submerged in a can of brake fluid and thsat didnt work. i was goin to try to have someone pump it up and hold it ,then release and retighten the bleeder, but i didnt have anyone else available. is there any one way that works better on this car?

 

[bottledgt]

well ,nobody seems to ever know an answer to my questions for sure, but im hard pressed to think that this could be a problem in the pressure plate. its new and was already in the car when i got it, but its from autozone. if its a reman( and it probably is) i think maybe they surfaced a little too much off the pressure plate and may be causing my problem. any thoughts on this? the hydraulic system is working fine, but it seems as if there isnt much pressure on the pedal. i tried shimming the push rod for fun and guess what? it still pushes the clutch fork to the exact location with or without 1/4 inch of washers shimming it.

 

[92awddsm]

If it doesnt change with shims and there is no pressure, Its definately the hydraulic system. You need someone to push the pedal while you bleed. Ive used the one man bleeder also with no luck at all. You can always cut a broom stick long enough to press the pedal down and wedge against the front of the seat. Do this and when you crack the bleeder screw, press the rod all the way back into the slave by hand. The clutch fork doesnt have enough travel to copress the slave completly. I bet you will find some pressure this way.

 

[johnnytsi]

Sounds like you may have bad clutch pedal bushings, Read the info here: Taboo Clutch Pedal bushing parts review

Also check out the clutch info section here:Taboo Speed Shop

Hope this helps,
John-

 

[bottledgt]

nope thats the first thing i checked, and its not that. and ive already had a buddy help me bleed it the two man way. the pedal doesnt have much pressure, but its not because the system isnt moving. it starts moving the slave push rod as soon as i have someonestart pushing the pedal and continues moving smoothly until they reach the floor. this is why i think the pressure plate may be at fault here.