Square on block by turbo??

[Kyle_T]

What is this square that sticks out of the block for? Could I grind some of it off? I have different coolant lines and my silicone hose rubs on the square.

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[Kyle_T]

Where are the dsm wisemen at?

Anyone know what its for?

 

[Achelea]

Are there threads in it? It might be a mount for a downpipe bracket.

 

[Kyle_T]

No threads or anything on it. You can also see the downpipe bracket on the bottom right side of the top picture.

 

[concept4g63]

Maybe its one of those no, point things, but eveetrhing has a point... Who knows, is it bothering you

 

[Kyle_T]

Maybe its one of those no, point things, but eveetrhing has a point... Who knows, is it bothering you

Haha yea, if it has no point I can grind it down and run my coolant line through there.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Safest way would be to grind it off on a spare or junk block if you can get your hands on one. Then take a punch and give it a couple of good hits to make sure it isnt weak or thin there. It isnt really a chance I would take with a block I plan on using without testing the idea first.

 

[90gsxjuice]

U can unbolt the hot side from the vband and twist it a bit to were u get some clearance

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

U can unbolt the hot side from the vband and twist it a bit to were u get some clearance

Not always true, Mine has a notch in it so it has to go on exactly straight. But another 14b I have does not have this.

 

[Kyle_T]

U can unbolt the hot side from the vband and twist it a bit to were u get some clearance

not really then I would have to bend around my oil lines and my jpipe would be sort of crooked.

Safest way would be to grind it off on a spare or junk block if you can get your hands on one. Then take a punch and give it a couple of good hits to make sure it isnt weak or thin there. It isnt really a chance I would take with a block I plan on using without testing the idea first.

I might have someone checking this for me

 

[vr4scott]

It's an extra piece of the structure that came from the casting process. I have ground the edges of it before but when I did, I didn't do it smooth with the surrounding edge. I never had a problem with it.

 

[motozachl]

I am so stumped. If I remember will try out some testing on a spare block of mine

 

[Kyle_T]

Still wondering if I can safely get rid of the square

So its probably just a locating spot for when then cast or machine the block?

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

I was looking at this on my block last night. I can't imagine there being an oil galley there. What happened to your friend looking into it?

 

[Bud92gsx]

You would think so..But I would make sure that's what it is..

And not some spot that will cause problems if you grind it down..

In the bottom picture it looks like the other one thats sticking out has a nut or bolt on it..Is that the case? Just wanted to make sure..?

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Yes the other one does have a phillips head screw in it. Not sure what it is for though.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Still wondering if I can safely get rid of the square

So its probably just a locating spot for when then cast or machine the block?

That's what I would guess. If you are going to grind it down, grind down as little as possible for your turbo and lines to fit for structural integrity's sake and to be on the safe side. All that is behind there is the hump/housing for the front balance shaft.

Worst case, if you end up grinding too far, you can always weld the block back up so long as the weld doesn't interfere with your front balance shaft (if you still have them), even though it may be slightly inconvenient with everything back together already. It is well out of the way of the rear bearing for that shaft and no oil or coolant galleries should be near there as that, again, is the hump/housing for the front balance shaft which is fed oil from the engine's main oil gallery.

Just my two pennies.

Yes the other one does have a phillips head screw in it. Not sure what it is for though.

In the first picture? That is the hole used to drill through the rear balance shaft bearing housing (for lack of a better word, where the bearing is pressed in) into the main oil gallery.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

In the first picture? That is the hole used to drill through the rear balance shaft bearing housing (for lack of a better word, where the bearing is pressed in) into the main oil gallery.

I figured it was something like that. The front bearing housing has a similar hole drilled for the same purpose. Just didn't want to post any misinformation.

 

[Bud92gsx]

No in the last picture..Actually it's probably in the first picture too..

Edit..It is in the first picture..

 

[19Eclipse90]

Indeed it does.

Bud, it's the same thing in the second picture, it (the block) just looks a lot like a much larger bolt head as the small Phillips screw hardly sticks out from the block at all to where you just can't see it.

 

[Bud92gsx]

So that one is a bolt, got it..

 

[19Eclipse90]

Wait... what?

There is a Phillips-head plug in the first picture that threads into the block. There is no bolt (unless you are calling the Phillips-head plug a bolt), there is only what appears to be a bolt (no philosophical ties intended) but is actually the block. Hopefully we are all square now.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Widow just got done fitting his 7 bolt into his car so I would let him have a shot at being correct..

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Brian and I are on the same page. He just described it better than me. What he is saying is exactly correct.

 

[Kyle_T]

Im still waiting to hear back from the guy who was going to check for me, so thats why Im still wondering.

Thanks for the info guys


I did some measuring and I need to remove about .25" of the square for my coolant line to clear. Thats about half of how much it sticks out of the block.