MAF Translator

[kronikjg]

I have a S-AFC II. Is it worth it to get a MAF translator also?

 

[pj91gsx]

The MAF Translator is used to run a 3'' GM MAF for increased airflow and so you can vent the BOV into the atmosphere if you install the MAF after the BOV. You can also use the MAFT to do other things like change injector size. I am going to use mine for is just to vent my BOV and to run a GM MAF for more airflow. Many people say to get the DSMLink rather than a SAFC or MAFT. Do you know how to use the SAFC?

 

[topchoice]

I'd say yes, get it. Not everyone has the funds for DSMLink but MAF-T is a great tuning tool. Do you have a logger too?

 

[crimsondragon]

A MAFT works the same as an SAFC. But if you want to have a GM MAF then get the translator.

 

[Blindsey]

I have a s-afcII. Is it worth it to get a MAF translator also?

I would say no to the maft. Especially if you live in an area where the climate changes regularly.
I ran mine for about 30 minutes and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I know many others who tried it and just didn't enjoy it. That's my .02 take it or leave it.....

 

[talon187]

ok, the MAFT is not the same as the SAFC2. The MAFT is a lot harder to tune than the SAFC2. I've used both and dumped the setup and got a MAF pro its totally different then SAFC2 and like stated above I live CT and the weather changes all the time and so did my a/f because of it.

The problem with the MAFT it only reads how much air is coming in not the temp or its density. If you use this setup whatever size injectors you run channel that into the MAFT and fine tune with the SAFC2.

If you plan on running 650s or bigger the SAFC2 will not be of much use you can get an ok tune with 650s on it anything bigger then that forget it. I would either buy a VPC GCC, MAF pro or get DSMLink like stated above. but if you get that you need the MAFT and I hate the unit so I stayed away from it. Also to run the MAF pro you would need a laptop it's also speed density.

 

[JusMX141]

Not everyone has the funds for dsmlink but maf-t is a great tuning tool.

SAFC2 = $200-$250 new.
MAF Translator = $200 new.
3" GM MAS = $30-$50 used.

DSMLink $545.

While DSMLink may seem to cost more, you're simply paying all at once.

 

[Blindsey]

Agreed. Super AFC and MAFT together can work.
But it takes a lot of time and a lot of tuning and retuning because of the MAFT.

If you want something that is plug and play and you don't have to tune with, the Keydiver is a great alternative.

I know countless others using it with no problems. Really good if you are a newb like myself and advanced tuning is really out of the question at the moment.

SAFC2 = $200-$250 new.
MAF Translator = $200 new.
3" GM MAS = $30-$50 used.

DSMLink $545.

While DSMLink may seem to cost more, you're simply all at once.

Don't forget an EPROM ECU, and the laptop if you don't already have one.

 

[talon187]

u wil need a wideband as well i forgot to metion that if you want a good tune anyway

 

[kronikjg]

I do have a laptop and the EPROM ECU. So my best bet is just going DSMLink and letting a pro shop tune it up. As opposed to playing games with other stuff.

Motors going in soon with Walbro 255, Aeromotive FPR, and PTE 680cc inj. I just want the right stuff to tune it. And if DSMLink is the way to go then. Also there is enviromental changes everyday in New England. I have a a/f gauge for now but what wideband is suggested.

Thanks great for all the help.

 

[Boost92awd]

If your going with DSMLink get bigger injectors than 680's. I would say get 950's or 1050's, that way if you want to upgrade your turbo later your wont have to buy another set of injectors. DSMLink will have no problem tuning that big of injector.

 

[Nekoni]

I ran mine for about 30 minutes and decided it wasn't worth the hassle.

30 minutes? You really didn't give it much of a chance did you. What didn't you like about it that you couldn't give it a little more time to work on it? I mean I agree with you I know people who just wont use them because of different reasons, all of the valid, but wow, 30 minutes.

 

[Blindsey]

30 minutes? You really didn't give it much of a chance did you. What didn't you like about it that you couldn't give it a little more time to work on it? I mean I agree with you I know people who just wont use them because of different reasons, all of the valid, but wow, 30 minutes.

I guess i should be more specific. My car isn't a daily so i drive it on rare occasion and short distances. So thirty minutes is actually about 10-15 times. I live in Utah, the weather here is nuts, so I would be retuning it almost every time i drove it. Then at the track I would have to tune it at the beginning of the night, and retune later in the night. 2g maf 10xs easier

 

[JusMX141]

I would say no to the maft. I know many others who tried it and just didn't enjoy it.

Were you by chance using the 3.5" sensor instead of the 3" one?

I know a handful of guys who had difficulty tuning their 3.5" GM MAS's at wide-open throttle when they were piped into their 2.5" intercooler piping. Most guys went back to a 2G draw-thru, but one guy switched to a 3" GM MAS and the problem went away.

 

[kronikjg]

I already have the 680s. Im not gonna up grade the turbo again until i do my head and bottom end. I will upgrade the turbo and injectors again after that. But as for now I should just get the dsmlink. I will just get now if im gonna need it any way.

 

[Blindsey]

Were you by chance using the 3.5" sensor instead of the 3" one?

I know a handful of guys who had difficulty tuning their 3.5" GM MAS's at wide-open throttle when they were piped into their 2.5" intercooler piping. Most guys went back to a 2G draw-thru, but one guy switched to a 3" GM MAS and the problem went away.

No i was using the 3".

 

[dj_remy]

Wow, there seems to be alot of options for a/f upgrades and alot more opinions on the matter. (not trying to thread jack man)

So, if i dont have a laptop, wideband, eprom - no dsmlink, i mean, after those that upgrade costs over $2000 for new, and it seems cant have one w/out the other.

Whats the most bang for the buck setup for running 550cc, 190fp, 16g?

 

[indy1g]

you can get a laptop off ebay that will run dsmlink for 100$ and the ecu for about the same.

 

[Blindsey]

Wow, there seems to be alot of options for a/f upgrades and alot more opinions on the matter. (not trying to thread jack man)

So, if i dont have a laptop, wideband, eprom - no dsmlink, i mean, after those that upgrade costs over $2000 for new, and it seems cant have one w/out the other.

Whats the most bang for the buck setup for running 550cc, 190fp, 16g?

Keydiver chip. its 140 bucks.

 

[AgntorangeDSM]

For those of you that are running the SAFC and the MAFT together, how did you set it up as far as the Translator and SAFC? Did you just hook the translator up and tune off your SAFC? Or set the Translator up some what and then tune with the SAFC?? Or am I just over thinking something simple and easy??