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atlguyinbama

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Feb 21, 2006
Madison, Alabama
Ok guys,
Just to be clear, I am pretty well schooled in the DSM world, I have owned 3 1g's, and have modded all myself. So please do not think I am your typical newbee. I just have yet to post much.
Anyway, I am currently in the process of building the 6-bolt in my 92 Laser AWD. This is being done, only because of a list of tragic events. They are as follows:

First, about a year ago, (which is about 4 months after purchasing this nearly bone stock 6/4 Laser with 130k on the clock) the car started to show some blue smoke from the exhaust, especially while in boost. So I went the standard route, and did a compression test, whick showed around 145psi accross the board. So of course the next assumtion was the turbo. That turned out being the case, so it was replaced with a MHI EVOIII 16g (all supporting mods were done prior to this [exhaust, pump, injectors, MBC, AFC, etc.]).

Next, after I got about 2 weeks of enjoyment out of my new turbo, when it started smoking again, almost the same as before. So I followed the same route as previously, and found cylinder 4 had 60psi of compression... OK time for a cheap rebuild (ring land was cracked and broke off in my hand when removed). I lucked out and found a set of Beck/Arnley pistons already pressed on some machined rods for cheap, so I honed the block (did an in the car rebuild, didnt have the time/money to do a full rebuild), installed the new pistons and bearings, arp head studs, and gaskets (felpro inc. hg). All was well again and I was tearing up the streets.

About 2 months later when doing an oil change I noticed coolant in the oil. First thought, shit, the new hg blew. So I bought a Cometic, took it to my buddies, and pulled the head off. I went ahead an had a 3-angle valve job done while I had it off. We replaced the gasket, torqued it back down and started her up. Same problem... Coolant still in oil. At this point I got on here and researched. Found a lot of experiences with crushed oil cooler internals. So I picked up the 90 oil cooler a buddy had from my old Talon and installed it. I changed the oil, flushed the coolant and problem fixed.

I also replaced the turbine housing on the EVO III, as the bolt holes had been stripped and a retap of them left them at poor angles. I opted to go with Bullseyes SS turbine housing as they were on sale, and were only slightly higher than I could find another 7cm for. Beside I wanted to give it a try and see what gains I could get topend, and I figured the 38mm flapper would help with the boost creep.

This same night, as the car was running, and we were checking for leaks, the car just died... When trying to start it up, it just slightly turned and thunked. Upon closer inspection it appears that the crank gear bolt (big one with ratchet head) was not properly tightend, and loosened up to the point that the gear wiggled loose and it jumped time. I grenaded 3 valves (broken off) and bent 5 more, along with killing the new pistons.

So that was 8 months ago, now Im in the process of totally rebuilding it. Im using Wiseco 9:1 pistons on stock 1g "Big" rods, in a .040" overbored block that has been line honed and decked w/a polished crank. The head is a stock rebuild with new valves, a 5-angle valve job and a set of Brian Crower 272's. Its being helt together with all ARP hardware. I also decided on a new oilpump and clutch at the same time, along with my first balance shaft eliminator kit. I am also using a greddy timing belt with new hydraulic and roller tensioners. I am shooting for 300-350 awhp with this setup and a good tune on the EVOIII.

Lets hope that this is the end of the curse that has seemed to follow me with my beloved Laser.
 
What are you talking about? A sad ending would be you killing yourself and then having family sell your DSM to some punk 18 yr. old who rices it out and does nothing for maintenance or speed. You have a story of passion and hope. Props for not giving up!
 
What are you talking about? A sad ending would be you killing yourself and then having family sell your DSM to some punk 18 yr. old who rices it out and does nothing for maintenance or speed. You have a story of passion and hope. Props for not giving up!

+1:thumb:
 
Sorry to hear your misfortune but just remember that it's part of being into cars. Something is going to break, for some its sooner than later. I always look at it like it's an opportunity to learn something new about my car and to get new performance parts. :thumb:

Also, its good to see some more dsm'ers from North Alabama. :dsm::talon::laser:
 
Sounds like a nice new setup . seems like that is always the way it goes, buy a new part, break an old part. haha. but it sounds like , for the most part, you covered the ends so it hopefully wont happen again. good luck, let us know what ###'s you put out.
 
Keep your head up. At least you have had some fun in it. I've had my for almost 4 months now and haven't even got to drive it, other than pulling it up on the trailer to bring it home. :)
 
Well sounds like you got your self a mean car in the making, some pictures would make this even better! :D
 
sounds like my 2g story, i had my 7bolt crank walk on me twice within about 6 months:cry::thumb:, i put it back together, sold it, and went back to the trusty six bolt 1g's. good luck with your build, dont cut any corners and keep us posted on how it turns out
 
Sounds like you have a nice build on your hands.

I noticed you are from huntsville. I am too and have a few questions for you...check your pm.
 
This is a perfect example of the old saying "the inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain." I hear stories like this time and time again, and I feel bad, but at the same time, I wonder why they didn't just go with a rebuild correctly the first time. Anyway, glad to hear you ended up with a good set up, it just sucks to hear you went through all the work to get there.

Jerry
 
This is a perfect example of the old saying "the inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain." I hear stories like this time and time again, and I feel bad, but at the same time, I wonder why they didn't just go with a rebuild correctly the first time. Anyway, glad to hear you ended up with a good set up, it just sucks to hear you went through all the work to get there.

Jerry

exactly what i was thinking.

Stay away from Cometic gaskets, OEM MLS < ALL IMO. Copper spray also helps.. well i use it, I had problems with cometic on a different setup.

One of your motors had broken ring lands, you better look into that before you do any tuning on this. The exact reason why i hate piggy back EMS systems, ring lands don't break on their own under normal conditions, maybe it wasn't your fault, bad gas maybe? Boost spike? but chances are lack of tuning, or poor experience had something to do with it, just be careful.

Good luck.
 
exactly what i was thinking.

Stay away from Cometic gaskets, OEM MLS < ALL IMO. Copper spray also helps.. well i use it, I had problems with cometic on a different setup.

One of your motors had broken ring lands, you better look into that before you do any tuning on this. The exact reason why i hate piggy back EMS systems, ring lands don't break on their own under normal conditions, maybe it wasn't your fault, bad gas maybe? Boost spike? but chances are lack of tuning, or poor experience had something to do with it, just be careful.

Good luck.

Yep, and here's a test to prove why Cometic is bad.

Headgaskets- Not all the same 4g63vim's Weblog
 
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yup i blew out my 0.072" cometic on my B series honda on just wastegate spring pressure 7psi!! No problems with a OEM and copper spray though.
 
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