Funny situation, I have a real EVO3 turbo and an Ebay 16g turbo..

[98TSiAWD403]

Do it right the first time, save the headache.. I learned this the hard way.
I recently bought a Turbo from ETDMotors off Ebay an not even 150kms of driving with it running stock boost/stock injectors, it ceased on me.. I even primed it with oil before the install. I tried contacting the seller, but no reply yet. What a waste of 300 bucks.

Oh well, now i'm boosting happy with a real EVO3 16g

.....After $1000 later.

[onebadtsi]

Ive been running a ebay 16g for about 5k now and no problems. I ported the waste gate hole and never had boost creep. For the money i spent 240 shipped, I think it was well worth it. I went with the ebay turbo b/c my real Big 16g was blowing oil and I didn't have 500 bucks to spend on a new 16g.

[mochilli]

After reading this entire thread, im def gonna go with the Ebay turbo (just graduated University and dont have money to be buying a real big 16 and don't care too if i can get almost the same performance for close to half the price!) i already bought/installed a ebay Turbo Timer and it works perfectly! i think i paid like $30 shipped lol.

BUT from what i read it should be fine. So, ill need the j-pipe if im running a FMIC ?(which i will install at the same time as well as my 02 housing and downpipe).

Does this kit seem sufficient?

eBay Motors: EVO 3 16G Ported Turbo DSM ECLIPSE 1G 2g TALON w j-pipe (item 380030649895 end time May-30-08 11:42:18 PDT)

[pu12en12g]

Originally Posted by awild

FMIC issue with ebay one's....

Link to the issue ?

[thewraith]

An update- I sold the car last week to a kid that got it for a HELL OF A DEAL with all the mods included (dsmlink, 880's etc). It ran strong and fine with 0 shaft play till i sold it. Here are some lessons learned:

1. If you're going to bend the waterpipes, be POSITIVE there are no kinks/holes in them
2. A punishment style j pipe isn't ideal- i got a no name one from laserspeeddemon that was ideal and still allowed for the huge fmic/aluminum radiator/stock fans.
3. The mishimoto aluminum radiator is thicker/wider then stock and the stock fans do not bolt onto it- this may become a fan issue.
4. Change all your water lines w/goodyear ones, it's a small cost and will save a ton of headaches.
5. DO NOT BUY too big an fmic, it looks great but for us ebay 16g'rs a smaller one will be just fine and not bring with it the HUGE headaches of trapped airflow due to the size of the fmic.

[mochilli]

Originally Posted by thewraith

An update- I sold the car last week to a kid that got it for a HELL OF A DEAL with all the mods included (dsmlink, 880's etc). It ran strong and fine with 0 shaft play till i sold it. Here are some lessons learned:

1. If you're going to bend the waterpipes, be POSITIVE there are no kinks/holes in them
2. A punishment style j pipe isn't ideal- i got a no name one from laserspeeddemon that was ideal and still allowed for the huge fmic/aluminum radiator/stock fans.
3. The mishimoto aluminum radiator is thicker/wider then stock and the stock fans do not bolt onto it- this may become a fan issue.
4. Change all your water lines w/goodyear ones, it's a small cost and will save a ton of headaches.
5. DO NOT BUY too big an fmic, it looks great but for us ebay 16g'rs a smaller one will be just fine and not bring with it the HUGE headaches of trapped airflow due to the size of the fmic.

i bought a ebay FMIC and wondering if its too big, i already asked this in the post below (with pics and measurements of the FMIC- post #268):
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hang...coolers-9.html

Please let me know if you think its too big and what would trapped airflow be? and how would i fix it if i got that?

[lq1driver]

so ebay 16g 300hp capable yes or no

[mochilli]

yes supports 350 hp, with other supporting mods: theres many threads on it

EDIT: someone please answer post #186

[lq1driver]

ehh thats kinda big looking im running the ssac intercooler on a 14b my buddy marcus has a ssac and a 50 trim and loves and it down side you have to cut a little but of the core support and you cant run fog ligts but you should get one i love it what turbo are you running if your still on the t25 save your money on the intercooler and buy a turbo maybe one of the ebay ones im thinking about trying it on my 91 awd

[mochilli]

i already have the intercooler (with universal pipes). Im getting the ebay big 16 one as well: i read a bunch of threads on them and they seem to be A ok

[Moparbishi]

Just my replaced my ebay 16g with a forced performance 16g yesterday. They ebay turbo spooled up nicely buy I could controll boost. I adjusted the wastegate arm so it would extend fully but that still over boosted. I probably could have fixed it by getting a different wastegate accuator and porting the wastegate but I had an oportunity to buy a real one. Works great and I love it.

[mochilli]

Can anyone tell me how they think this turbo would work: spool up, hp gains, etc. and if its like the other ebay knock offs? Apparently, its new to ebay!!!!

SUPER T4 AR70 COLD AR68 HOT 600HP TURBO CHARGER NEW - (eBay.ca item 380031773629 end time 03-Jun-08 12:59:34 EDT)

Im pretty much stock right now, searching for a turbocharger ...Would i need bigger injectors with the turbo, what other mods? iv been contemplating the big16, but apparently im going to want more HP after i get it lol.

Opinions, opinions, opinions. lets hear them!

[thewraith]

You don't HAVE to get bigger injectors but they will be needed if you want to run more then 12psi or so. If you have a bigger turbo- i'd imagine you'd want to do that either way.

[mochilli]

But if i get a big 16 i can 'supopsely' run up to 15 psi (without tuning). I assume the person meant on stock injectors as well. Is it different when using a 16g perhaps?

[thewraith]

No. Not even on a t-25.

[mochilli]

So either way, if i want to run more boost, i should get bigger injectors?

Im just trying to sort out buying parts in order. I still need to get a A/F gauge (prob gonna spend the money and go AEM wideband A/F). Then i can install my boost and AF gauges. Then drop in a bigger turbo, bigger injectors, boost controller (have), full turbo-back exhaust (have 02 housing and DP so far), 255 fuel pump and new AFPR. I also already have a FMIC waiting to be installed.

[1] Then ill need a good tune, and ill be good to go?

[2] Anytime you get bigger injectors, you need to tune your car correct? (bc it will be pulsing the same but giving out more fuel then expected bc of larger injectors?)

[3] Can i get someone to tune it at a dyno shop, or do i need my own fuel management program first (SAFC, DMSlink)?

[airmail96]

It would benefit you more to get something to tune with before taking it to the shop to have them tune it. Safc would be ok, but DSMlink, ECU + and others would allow you much better control over the functioning of your engine.

[mochilli]

yeah i know, i want a DSM link. im going to start working 7 days week soon. Ill prob do it for 2 or 3 months and the extra $1,100 i get a month will go towards my car

[rEclipserGST]

A T-25 can boost up to 14 psi without fuel mods. Max boost i have hit so far is 14.3 psi. So since your going to upgrade to the 16g you DEF. want to get a new fuel pump & afpr. BUT need for new injectors.... i would think not. You can get an SAFC and extend the pulse rate of your STOCK injectors. You know... UNTILL you hit fuel cut. Hahaha, THEN i would consider getting injectors. Def. get fuel management 1st tho. I have a walbo fp sitting in my room, i just need the afpr. and EVENTUALLY im going to upgrade to 650's and keep it there. Im not looking for a race car. Just a FAIRLY quick one.

Im def. glad and VERY thankful that you guys did testing on the ebay 16g. I was looking at it because i am also in college and CANT work a full time job. So this helps alot, i was too afraid to be called Noob and be laughed at when mentioning the ebay Evo3 16g turbo. But now that its okay... hows this?

EVO 3 16G Ported Turbo / DSM 1G 2g Includes INSTALL - (eBay.ca item 150284915462 end time 23-Aug-08 22:57:43 EDT)

$200 is kinda low. BUT someone mentioned that it could be a NEW company trying to get their business and reputation off the ground.

And i heard if you get a STAINLESS STEEL ebay full exhaust.... they work just as well.
Any thoughts on this one?

95-99 ECLIPSE GST TURBO CATBACK N1 EXHAUST SYSTEM 96 97 - (eBay.ca item 360080155613 end time 26-Aug-08 20:47:50 EDT)


Thanks, before i found DsmTuners..... i was lost. But now i am found, im not alone... ET go home?

[thewraith]

Yes, I had that same ebay n10 good quality piece but it was LOUD AS HELL so I got rid of it.