What Should I do Next???

[Avalanche419]

Ok I got another Question for yall....Yesterday I finished Bolting on my new Ram Air Intake and new Muffler....Wow, not hard...but my next question is, Where do i go next? I got the 420a motor....Some say I should Turbo it and go from there, but what if i kept it naturally aspirated, what should i do next? I am thinkin about ordering some new cam shafts that will help...but after that where should i go? Sense I'm on a budget, should i just order parts sepreratly for the turbo? If anyone knows where to get cheap trubo kits lemme know, the only ones Ive found are around $2000-$3000....or should I go the spray route with just a 50 shot of nitrous and keepin the rest of the car naturally aspirated....What would u do?

Also to note....I have an automatic Transmission and Have found the cam shafts, rods and pistons that are made for boost for real cheap....Also, if i used spray i could continue moding the car intill i got enough money to put on the spray vs the turbo where i would need to wait till i had enough to buy it.....

 

[winterftbl]

Why not just sell your 420a and get a turbo to start with, then you will already have a turbo and can just upgrade from there. Also it depends where you want the power because if you want a quick fix then go with nitrous but if you want the real thing then go turbo.

 

[Hideki]

Why not just sell your 420a and get a turbo to start with, then you will already have a turbo and can just upgrade from there. Also it depends where you want the power because if you want a quick fix then go with nitrous but if you want the real thing then go turbo.

I agree. I'm not trying to hate on your NT/automatic but if you're really serious about performance I'd look into a turbo model with a stick shift. You can still find a clean 1G GSX for what you could sell your 2G NT for. Just my .02 cents

 

[Eastwood95]

.03cents, I concur with the above.....

If you can't get out of that car for some reason though, upgrade your ignition and get a dry 50 shot. The ZEX kit worked great on my old accord....i juiced that mug for two years and it still had no problems when i sold it. Back in 03' mind you, before i realized the greatness of DSM.

 

[Cs4g63]

Do the cams and some nitrous. Just make sure you set up the nitrous properly. My cousin had a friend that supposedly knew what he was doing help him with his nitrous setup and they blew up the motor after 5 pulls at the track.

 

[Hideki]

i realized the greatness of DSM.

Quote for the ages

 

[Avalanche419]

.03cents, I concur with the above.....

If you can't get out of that car for some reason though, upgrade your ignition and get a dry 50 shot. The ZEX kit worked great on my old accord....i juiced that mug for two years and it still had no problems when i sold it. Back in 03' mind you, before i realized the greatness of DSM.

I can't get rid of it, thats the thing, got a bank loan for 5 grand...so i'm gonna nitrous it, i got the cam shafts..but what ignition should i get?? What do you guys recommend?

 

[95tzlgst]

go to exileracing.com they have a few ignitions part that are suppose to be pretty good. I use to have an N/T but threw a rodand the valve cover gasket always leeked. so I got a real dsm something your goin to hear alot.

 

[Spln_Hrd]

Its like making a v6 mustang nasty. If you like the way the car looks then a n/t is fine.

If you wanna haul as$ get a tsi/gstx. increasing performance in a 420a is just silly if the same car offers the BEST 4 cylinder ever engineered .

 

[polen]

yes true 420a's are more for DD gas mileage not your modding type car

 

[Avalanche419]

yeah...it'll be a challenge, i'm not trying to make a complete drag car, i want somethin that'll run 13's or better...i think thats possible...is it?

 

[SVP97GST]

nitrous makes a lot of things that seem impossible, possible. though our cars are heavy..

 

[ilikespeeding]

yeah...it'll be a challenge, i'm not trying to make a complete drag car, i want somethin that'll run 13's or better...i think thats possible...is it?

Not without some positive displacement. Well, it might be, but it's unlikely. I saw a V6 Camaro with almost every bolt-on that I could think of that ran a 13.8 or something like that.

13s is what? 275 bhp?

I'll sell you my 90 GSX for pretty cheap, PM me if you're intrested.

 

[Shaggy_357]

Without , I have to agree with those that suggested to get an already turbo'd vehicle. I had my Eclipse GS...but after looking at all the crap necessary to make it fast, I just parted ways with it and bought my AWD. It may take some saving, but if you think about it...what happens when you hit 13s in the N/T? You want to go faster, but at that point you may be running out of bolt-on go-fast parts. Whereas you could buy the GS-T/GSX and be just getting started with 13s. It's your call, but I suggest buying the car thats meant to go fast, not sip gas



Eric

 

[Eastwood95]

Guys,
He said he can't get out of that car right now..........

For an ignition I recommend MSD man. Get a Sport Compact Ignition with a Blaster 2 or 3 Coil, and a set of colder spark plugs. One very important thing people dont realize when they purchase a nitrous kit is the bottle pressure. You will need to buy a bottle pressure gauge, and bottle warmer/heater to monitor the bottle. You can set up a nitrous kit for a 50 shot, and if the bottle pressure is low, you will only get a 20-30 shot. Do some research before you purchase, but the ZEX dry shot kit worked well for me. The electronic box it comes with adds additional fuel for you, and it only kicks in with the arming switch on, and when you're at WOT.

With that kit and some cams, you'll be close to 13's. You could try some weight reduction as well, to gain a few tenths.

 

[Avalanche419]

Guys,
He said he can't get out of that car right now..........

Thank You, I can't say it enough, If I woulda known this before i bought the car, i might keep lookin, but like i said, good deal or at least i thought. I want a fast street car and 13's is a decently fast street car. As far as the nitrous, i think thats the way i'm going like said before, i checked the Nitrous Kits online and Zex, like you all said, seems like the best. I found an ignition package for $375 comes with all the shit i need....Now, one more ?, is nitrous street legal in Ohio? Does anyone know? I tried lookin online and all i'm gettin about nitrous is laughing gas laws .....Also, Does anyone know where to find Cam shafts for the 420a, I wanna upgrade cams before I add the nitrous ### i heard the stock cams on the automatic are pretty week....

 

[oldman420]

If you just want to go fast for now if you cam it and use n.o.s. First realize when you go to turbo it you are going to have to replace those cams for turbo grind. You know what talk to my friend focker420 he has spent over 15 to 20 grand trying to turbo his 420. Sure its going to go fast, but when i invest my 10 grand im sure im going to go faster

 

[kenamond]

My friend sold his '95 TSi AWD about 2 years ago for $3500. If I knew then what I know now, I'd have purchased it. He kept it in good shape, and it ran great. He has a '06 GTO now.

With that said, if you're talking about putting $3k into your N/T, you might want to think about buying a turbo car instead. There are good deals out there.

 

[ilikespeeding]

Just because you have a bank loan doesn't mean you're stuck with that car. If you sell or trade it, you have to either up your loan, or pay the difference and keep making payments.

Or you could walk away with my 1G GSX for $1,100.

 

[Locke]

Both Crower and Crane make camshafts for the 420a, and can be had from Howell, CI Motorsports, and many other vendors.

Just FYI: The 420a Bolt-on Tech section is open for New Members to post in. Posting your 420a questions in there in the future may provide you with more useful information, and fewer waste-of-space, BS non-answers.

 

[Eagle18g]

I think the general consensus here is that you should just trade your non-turbo for a turbo DSM better yet a turbo AWD DSM. Once you start upgrading you will be held back by the fact that it is not a turbo. Then after that you will be held back because it's not AWD. In my opinion if you want to drag around two wheels you should get a trailer.

 

[keith0486]

im not a dsm guy yet.. but i would have to say go turbo once you go turbo you will love it i know i did i have a 92 240sx with a sr20det and when u hit boost if feels good haha.

 

[98eclipsekidd08]

thought you wernt supposed to tell people to sell there nt for turbo
i get that response all the time and it pisses me off i want help when i post a forum not someone saying to sell my car. but anyway if ## doing cam shafts i would just take off the head port and polish it, get pistons, rods, and camshafts all at the same time. get low compression pistons if u do plan on turboing ## car in the long run. hopefully this helped u more then the whole sell ## car shit, because i like my 420a.

 

[Spln_Hrd]

If he cant afford to get out of a 6,000 dollar loan I wouldnt advise trying to make it run 13's. You will spend a fair amount of money to make that thing run thirteens. I am not trying to tell you not to mod the car, but as for your best financial move would be to put that extra cash you have for modding towards the pricipal on your loan and waiting till you can dump it for a turbo.

This is comming from someone who wanted to run 13's a year ago, I ran 13's. Within a year of running 13's i've spent 10k trying to go faster .

Not to discourage your from setting goals or having fun, this is just my opinion.

 

[Artago]

Why not just sell your 420a and get a turbo to start with, then you will already have a turbo and can just upgrade from there. Also it depends where you want the power because if you want a quick fix then go with nitrous but if you want the real thing then go turbo.

It's what I did.