1G MAF Translator?

[LuLusTurboTalon]

I have a 1992 Talon TSI with 72,000 on it and I was looking at a few cars on here and seen that they had a MAF translator on them. What do these things actually do? Is it just one thing you put on and it helps performance or do you have to add more stuff, or take stuff off? I am new to the MAF translator, never heard of it so if anyone can please help me I would appricate it. I am considering getting one it if it works great and will improve performance

 

[SBR Joe]

I have a 1992 Talon TSI with 72,000 on it and I was looking at a few cars on here and seen that they had a MAF translator on them. What do these things actually do? Is it just one thing you put on and it helps performance or do you have to add more stuff, or take stuff off? I am new to the MAF translator, never heard of it so if anyone can please help me I would appricate it. I am considering getting one it if it works great and will improve performance

Well for one it increases performance mainly because it increases air flow over the stock maf by alot. It also allows you to vent the bov to the atmosphere if mounted post bov on the uicp, and you can tune with it as well. It is capable of compensating for injector size and has idle, mid, and wot tuning switches to adjust the fuel accordingly.


Joe
SBR

 

[GVR4592]

For most people it's just a ricer mod. The performance gains are negligible, tuning it correctly is a real pain in the ass, and it's not needed until you're making a ton of power. A better upgrade is a 3g mass air flow sensor or the Evo unit, and they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

[SBR Joe]

For most people it's just a ricer mod. The performance gains are negligible, tuning it correctly is a real pain in the ass, and it's not needed until you're making a ton of power. A better upgrade is a 3g mass air flow sensor or the Evo unit, and they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

The 3g/Evo MAF flows about the same as a GM maft...pull through at least. The only gains i have seen (personaly because i have used both before) is the GM maf likes to go out of tune with the slighest change in weather. The EVO maf on the other hand with some AFC tuning was much more consistent with its perfrmance and drivability. Either or would benefit you slightly.


Joe
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[tqmx1]

The 3g/Evo MAF flows about the same as a GM maft...pull through at least. The only gains i have seen (personaly because i have used both before) is the GM maf likes to go out of tune with the slighest change in weather. The EVO maf on the other hand with some AFC tuning was much more consistent with its perfrmance and drivability. Either or would benefit you slightly.


Joe
SBR

So Joe what I think you are saying is a barrow and a iat sensor would solve the GM maf problems(that is if it is wether related)

 

[dsm-onster]

The mass flow is calculated completely by the gm maf. So tehre is no baro input neccesary nor an IAT input.

For most people it's just a ricer mod. The performance gains are negligible, tuning it correctly is a real pain in the ass, and it's not needed until you're making a ton of power. A better upgrade is a 3g mass air flow sensor or the Evo unit, and they are a hell of a lot cheaper.

Hmmm, considering the cost of properly controlling the input of such a mitsu maf, I don't believe that such a maf conversion is more cost effective. 3g/evo mafs are more expensive than GM 3" ls1 mafs. And a chip or safc costs the same as a maft.

But CERTAINLY! consistancy and drivability is compromised somewhat using a maft. It IS finicky. And if you can afford to go w/ the more streetable set up I doubt you'd ever out flow what an evo maf can meter!

 

[SBR Joe]

So Joe what I think you are saying is a barrow and a iat sensor would solve the GM maf problems(that is if it is wether related)

I may have worded it a bit wrong in my first statement. Its not so prone to acting up in hotter/colder changes, its when it rains and theres a lot of moisture. All the condensation from the intercooler hits the hot wire and trips it all up making it a bit choppy. I dont think that the iat and baro sensor would make the difference beings the main reason is moisture that makes it act funny, but i cant give a "for sure" answer to that question.


Joe
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[Littlebeeper]

mine seemed to work great, wet or dry. Only thing is that i got a slight hesitation if i gunned the throttle sometimes. I agree that the 3G/Evo sensors would work great too but the cost would be the same. it depends on what you want and what you want to do. 1 has the ricer option of venting the bov (stock 1G is pretty loud by the way), and the other has the ricer option of having a nice electronic gadget in the dash area. I have both now and like the S-AFC because it can be adjusted without poping the hood though. the extra wires to mount the MAFT in the car is like 70 bucks.
The main thing is either is better than the 1G MAF. the car will perform and idle better with either one (though the GM MAF is not bothered at all by the radiator fan blowing hot air into the intake filter, i imagine all Karmon MAF will be bothered by that.) the MAFT cured ALL my idle and surging problems.

 

[GVR4592]

The mass flow is calculated completely by the gm maf. So tehre is no baro input neccesary nor an IAT input.


Hmmm, considering the cost of properly controlling the input of such a mitsu maf, I don't believe that such a maf conversion is more cost effective. 3g/evo mafs are more expensive than GM 3" ls1 mafs. And a chip or safc costs the same as a maft.

But CERTAINLY! consistancy and drivability is compromised somewhat using a maft. It IS finicky. And if you can afford to go w/ the more streetable set up I doubt you'd ever out flow what an evo maf can meter!

You can get a 3g/Evo maf for $50-$75 if you look around, and Safc's can be had for under $200. You'll spend more than that for just the translator and the couplers to connect the Gm maf.

 

[dsm-onster]

You can get a 3g/Evo maf for $50-$75 if you look around, and Safc's can be had for under $200. You'll spend more than that for just the translator and the couplers to connect the Gm maf.

A used maft costs the same as a used safc. The coupler for drawthru is very inexpensive. But, yes is an added expense. I purchased my 3 inch gm maf for under $40. It all seams to come out in the wash .

 

[LTUDSM]

well don't forget that there is a MAFT Gen II which is way better then the regular Maft ,im running 16g, 550's,AFX Wideband and its really easy to tune with MAFT Gen II

 

[91whiteGSX]

Hey whats up guys I found A MAF Translator but im not sure what car it goes to its says CFG.L4.2 Does anyone know??? thanks