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[vaboys2ndgen]

JUST WANTED TO GET IDEAS OF WHAT IM MISSING. 1ST BUILD.. SO BARE WITH ME. IM AM ABOUT READY TO ORDER THE INTERNALS FOR THE BUILD. STARTING WITH A BARE BLOCK AND BARE HEAD ALSO.

2.3l


BOTTOM END
Wiseco piston .20 over 8.8:1
eagle h beam rods OR crower rods
balance shaft eliminator kit
new 4g63 oil pan
clevite main and rod bearing sets
arp- rod, crank bolt(s) main, head studs
new topline front cover w/ oil pump
new oil pickup tube
new oil filter housing

HEAD
new mitsu valve stem seals
manley 1mm over valves
manley springs and titanium retainers
brian crower 280/280 camshafts
revised lifters
kevlar timing belt
new mitsu water pump
new timing belt cover

piston oil squirters
BASICALLY TO HAVE THE MOTOR ASSEMBLED AND SITTING ON A STAND READY TO DROP INTO THE CAR IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR INSIGHT ON. ALSO NOT WORRIED ABOUT BRAND NAMES JUST SPECIFIC PARTS IS WHAT IM LOOKING FOR.

THANKS AGAIN

-JPICK (IN IRAQ)

 

[wt71gas]

There is always little stuff you need and can't predict. What piston oil quirters. Do you have them. Are you reusing old ones? You will need to have the block clearnaced also for the stroker build. The main cap bridges need to be milled or ground on and the block will need to be ground on a little also to make room for the crank. The engine oil pan will need to be dented up a bit in a couple spots also to make room for the crank. Other than that your parts list looks pretty good.

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

All The Machine Work Will Be Done By A Shop Or Sbr Not Sure Which Yet. Probably More Than Likely A Shop In/near Richmond, Va.

Piston Oil Squirters( Nope Didnt Have That On The List )

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Thats What Im Looking For.

I Havent Ordered Anything Yet I Want To Get Everything At Once. I Get Leave In August And I Plan On Trying To Get The Motor Starting Assembly Around My Leave Time And Before I Head Up To The Shootout. ALSO I AM GOING TO BE STARTING WITH BARE BLOCK AND HEAD (6BOLT) MACHINED FOR THE 2.3 BUILD. WILL BE GETTING A NEW OIL PAN, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO FIND ONE I WONT HAVE TO DECENT () WORTH A SHOT.

where could i purchase the oil squirters? or am i guessing oem is the way to go.

 

[wt71gas]

I can supply you with all the necessary parts and we can get brand new oil pans as well.

 

[paper_clip_boy]

The stock 6 bolt block should come with oil squiters unless its a N/T block. You can reuse the Oil squiters in a Stroker build by bending them slightly so that the piston skirts clear the squirter. Although with a forged build its not needed to have oil squiters. Most people will tell you to get rid of them, but the way I see it, they are extra insurance that the wrist piston is staying lubricated and that the pistons are keeping cool.

One thing that im also recommending is that you either switched to an Eagle forged crank, or have yours inspected THOROUGHLY. Unfortunetely while doing my build the Eagle crank was not available at the time. Also Check out FFWD's Butcher Crank. You can upgrade all the bolt-on crap later but the engine is something your only going to want to do once, Might aswell make it the most bulletproof engine out there and with all that weight gone It revs soooooo much quicker.

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

thanks paper clip boy.

yeah right now i have(well technically someone has) a 4g64 crank, which was going to be used in a friends build. but thanks for the heads up. yeah i hear ya 100% about the engine.

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

i just order the 1st order from SBR the other nite.


wiseco mitsu 88-92 8.8:1 .020
6bolt Manley Hbeam rod .827pin 90-92
BS eliminator kit
ACL main bearings 6bolt
ACL rod bearings 6bolt
ARP main studs
ARP headstuds
SBR oil pan
Manley 1mm over exhaust valves
Manley 1mm over intake valves
manley spring and titanium retainer and lock kit
brian crower stage 2 camshafts 272s
Fidanza Cam Gears
Topline Revised lifters
HKS purple timing belt
shearer t4 top mount manifold

 

[2point3Tsi]

You have your oil filter housing ported right? BS removal will up your pressure. What are you using for tuning? New pump and afpr would be a good idea. Is that shearer top mount standard or divided?

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

Oil Filter Housing Isn't Ported Yet. Going To Be Using Dsmlink For Tuning. Yeah I Got Everything Taken Care Of I Was Just Updating To What I've Ordered Recently. Shearer Top Mount Is Divided, I Still Have 2-3 More Orders From Sbr.

Everything Performance, Aspect Anyways, Is Going To Be Brand New. The Only Thing That Will Be 'old' Is The Chassis Lol. Pretty Much

 

[2point3Tsi]

I'm just finishing up the same basic thing 2.3 DD. Have you thought about your tranny yet? 400whp+stock 2-spider I feel you on the chassis thing. I'm all stock except motor/tranny

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

As My Car Sits Now My Car Is At Home Sitting In The Driveway Completly Gutted Of Interior, Motor, Trans.

Aftermarket Suspension On The Front Rear Hasnt Been Finished(im In Iraq Right Now Lol)

Alot Of Work Needs To Be Done But Nothing That Is Going To Happen Until June '08 Time Frame. Just Getting Parts Together And In August I Plan On Starting To Assemble The Motor While Im Home On Leave.

Im Going With A Ipt Trans 4500rpm Stall, Shift Kit, Upgrade Trans Cooler, Etc Etc...

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

alot of parts of come in for the car bolt on type stuff.

having an issue with how the IC is going to be though.

JMFab SMIM
75mm TB
custom SBR made IC w/ custom 3" piping to fit 75mm tb, gm maf, flanged for tial bov.

the end tank inlet/outlets on the IC come out the sides. the last FMIC i had, the endtanks came out the rear of the IC toward the motor.

i'll post pics in a few to give everyone a better idea

 

[Black_Bullet]

Nice.... Your not playing around huh!

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

def not playin around heh

 

[taifighter]

Hey, don't forget the CAS. If you need a wiring diagram to get it into the 2g harness, there's one that is super sipmle to read at magnusmotorsports.com

 

[boostenon114]

Very nice! Good luck

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

Hey, don't forget the CAS. If you need a wiring diagram to get it into the 2g harness, there's one that is super sipmle to read at magnusmotorsports.com

yeah def. didnt forget that just havent gotten around to it thanks

 

[absolute_DSM]

Im sure youve already thought about the supporting mods but since you have all that ordered, nows the time to price out that list.

This sounds like exactly what I did. Went to Iraq, came back and built a car. Ah yes!

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

by supporting mods you mean? i have everything i need right now for the performance aspect except: turbo, WG, exhaust manifold, o2 housing. . .


but yes things like the cas and the parts i need from mitsubishi still need to be picked up.

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

crankpulley 6bolt 1gMD376608
oil pump gasket 6bolt 1 md149393
6bolt mitsu front cover and gear set 1
md174581
md174582
md175762
6bolt oil pickup tube 1 md113024
water pump 1g 1 md972052
mitsu metal head gasket 1 md349347
1g 6bolt hydraulic tensioner 1 md164533
timing tensioner bolt 1 md129350
blue pulley timing 1 md129355
idler orange pulley time belt 1 md156604
1g 6bolt timing belt cover 1 md141454
cover, timing BE timing tin 1 md130094
cover, timing belt timing tins 1 md127142
water pump pipe 1 md171059
1g 6bolt thermostat case 1 md190339

anything else off the top of the head that i should need to order?

thanks guys big help so far

 

[absolute_DSM]

By supporting mods I basically meant gettin it enough fuel.

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

walbro 255HP intank
pte 1000cc injectors
Afpr kit
-6an SS line
-6an billet fuel filter

will stretch the limits of the pump before adding a bosch -044 inline or maybe just another walbro 255HP inline pump.

 

[twicks69]

walbro 255HP intank
pte 1000cc injectors
Afpr kit
-6an SS line
-6an billet fuel filter

will stretch the limits of the pump before adding a bosch -044 inline or maybe just another walbro 255HP inline pump.

Agreed -- this setup will easily do 700AWHP with a 2nd walboro 255HP inline.



Also, it is in your best interests to order the bearings (main/rod) AFTER your crank goes to the machine shop because if you are reusing your 4G64 crank and it needs to be turned from standard size to a 10/10, you just wasted money on bearings. If you go with the Eagle crank, you should be able to use the standard size without issues.

FYI, the Eagle rods come with ARP rod bolts already installed.

You will also need bronze valve guides for the cylinder head.


Here is a very helpful buildup link to give you an idea of some of the things you will expect to happen, and some helpful tricks to make sure you do it right.

http://www.extremeevolutions.com/4G64_buildup.htm

Just remember -- the link is for a 2.4L 4G64 swap, NOT a 2.3L, so disregard some of the data -- I linked it because I felt it was helpful in the buildup of my race 2.3L.

Data like :
Balance shaft pully replacement spacer - MD128107

Good luck!

 

[vaboys2ndgen]

UPDATE of purchased

The car sits with the old 7bolt and 2g awd trans removed, interior is gutted for the most part as well. removed padding from the bottom of the carpet, most of the tar-like sound deadener on the floor, spare tire, jack, tools, rear seats, front seats, rear deck lid, rear hatch carpet (all carpet), all seat belts/motors.

bottom end
wiseco piston .020 over 9.0:1
manley h beam rods
balance shaft eliminator kit
new oil pan
acl race series rod bearings
acl race series main bearings
arp: main stud kit, head studs
new oil pickup tube
new oil filter housing

head
new mitsu valve stem seals
manley ss 1mm over valves
manley springs, titanium retainers and lock kit
brian crower stg2 272/272 camshafts
fidanza cam gears
topline revised lifters
hks kevlar timing belt

turbo
gt3582r .82 t31 housing port shroud compressor cover
tial 38mm wg
SBR gt30 oil feed line kit
SBR gt30 oil return kit

exhaust
Turbonetics T3 cast manifold
Innovate lm-1 wideband
3" megan racing dp
3" custom exhaust w/ magnaflow muffler

Intake
CHM 12"slim line fan
vibrant intake filter
JMFab 1G SMIM w/ 75mm tb flange
CHM mustang 75mm TB
SBR IC w/ 3" piping to fit 75mm tb, gm maf, flanged for tial bov.
tial bov
gm maf+translator
turbosmart dual stg boost controller

cooling
samco coolant hose kit
fluidyne radiator

Fuel
dsmlink v2
6an fuel rail inlet fitting
SBR s.s fpr kit
SBR fpr line kit
walbro 255HP intank fuel pump
PTE 1000cc injectors
billet -6an fuel filter

Ignition
SBR Coil On Plug setup
Greddy Turbo Timer
NGK spark plugs

exterior
cf rear hatch w/ lexan window
cf hood
cf doors
97-99 front bumper
97-99 headlights

suspension
eibach sportline springs
koni red struts
ingalls camber kit

Need to order
new mitsu water pump
new timing belt cover
walbro 255HP inline fuel pump
mitsu multilayer steel head gasket
complete engine gasket kit
front engine cover assembly and gear set
custom o2 housing (to fit MR dp and t3 setup)
damper pulley
oil pump gasket
oil pickup tube
hydraulic tensioner
timing tensioner bolt
blue timing pulley
orange idle timing belt pulley
timing belt cover
timing BE trimming tin cover
timing belt timing tins cover
water pump pipe
thermostat case
IPT transmission
9 1/2" billet converter (4k stall)
6bolt adapter
trans cooler
sender unit
temp gauge
corbeau seats
corbeau harnesses
8pt rollcage
front axles
rear axles

that is whats on radar for now.

 

[Tarascan79]

From what i have heard skip the butcherd crank if it is a dd.