Lowering/Slamming A 1992 Talon Fwd Turbo

[PedroMartinez]

I have a 1992 talon tsi fwd turbo. I plan on lowering it for that slammed look. but i dont know which route to go and i dont wanna miss use my money. Since i only make about 400 dollars every 2 weeks. (im still in school) . I dont wannt the cheapest stuff but not the most expensive. Its going to be my DD for right know since i own a honda and its my dragger and i havent finished my project. (this is my first dsm if your wondering) .

Also i dont want it to be real bumpy i want more of a cadillac smooth ride, but i know i wont get the best cause im not putting a lot of money.


any ideas would highly be appreciated....

Its a 1g Talon 1992 . FWD turbo again.

 

[Low Impedance]

well considering that the car has not alot of room for suspension travel i think that you will find that this is a generally terrible idea. If you do force it to be slammed, it will have a bad ride quaility, handle in a unsafe manenr and generally wear suspension componenets in an untimely manner.

prognosis: buy something else.

 

[DJYoshaBYD]

or just dont lower it as bad... give a good 1.25-1.50 inches drop.... your ride will probably get a little bumpy cause stock struts wont be valved to be lowered, but you will get the look and as long as you dont drive like a dummy, you should be cool....

 

[PedroMartinez]

I dont want a LOWRIDER LOOK but i will buy aftermarket struts. and springs. i just wanna LOWER THE CAR . also if i lower it like 1.25-2.5 " . whats the best set up to go w/ ?? also what kinda rims should i get. i want all black rims. whats the sizes for my car??

sorry i came from a honda and toyota cars..

 

[VTRICCO]

the search function is your best friend. Do your own research instead of asking others to do it for you. all these topics your looking for answers on have been discussed to death

 

[AutomagicGSX]

Hey Pedro, I see your from Mooresville! Thats my hometown. You should join up over at carolinadsm.com

There are some good guys over there that are local and always willing to help out.

 

[SnowBird]

If you want it to be slammed and ride good for cheap its not going to happen. No matter what its going to be around $400 bucks for shocks and springs without going the cheapest route. I would buy at the most 2" springs and some struts, Ride will be bumpy and it wont be that low but itll be practical. A slammed daily driver sucks, and shouldnt be done to a car like a TSI that is suppose to be driven fast. Just my two sense, I have a 1st altima that is my daily driver lowered 2" on good struts and springs, and it is a pain in the dick. I dont know for sure, but Id put my money on it that the altima has more travel than a DSM.

 

[Cs4g63]

Using the Eibachs and a good set of struts will get you where you want to be.
http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=3055&

But i have also used the megan springs with a good set of struts and been happy with the results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lowe...543QQitemZ170090411543QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

 

[Gregory]

You probably don't think it rides like a Cadillac now, and you will only be moving farther from this by lowering it. A 2" drop on a DSM is a lot: that's what I did (believe me when I say you don't want to go any lower). If you're trying to find that healthy medium, I'd vote for a 1" drop.

You also might want to consider what wheels you will be using. I have the stock wheels, so the car sits very low, but it also gives me some more travel up top in the fenders. A bigger rim will raise your car up a bit, so that can be factored in to the equation if you're planning on doing that.

I used Eibach springs, and they are working great for me. Good luck!

 

[PedroMartinez]

Thanks for everything i guess I dont want a 2" drop. i'll go w/ anything less than that.

 

[JayRolla]

The prokit is barely more than a 1" drop on a 2g. Very good springs and wont compromise your ride to much.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Tein basics might be a good choice for you but they're close to $700. On the bright side you can adjust the ride height to whatever you want, rather than be stuck with a spring and strut install.
But notice with any chance you make you will need an alignment, so set it to something appropriate first then get it aligned and start saving again for that alignment if you want to go higher or lower.

A cheaper but more set instone solution would be KYB AGX's with Eibach Pro-Kits. Little more than a 1" drop with some decent adjustable struts that can handle Pro-Kits just fine. The price won't kill you either.

Be aware there are almost no strut upgrades for a 1g (or 2 go for that matter) DSM that will take more than a 1.5" drop without being prone to blowing the struts themselves.
Your only bet for more drop are Koni Sports which are ~$600 themselves without springs.



But whats more important is that you know your goals for this car. What are they? Just a fun DD? Do you want a 500whp drag car? Maybe autocross?
You must consider these before choosing cause its much easier to just buy the appropriate parts the first time.

 

[nightspeed87]

Make sure you upgrade struts and springs at the same time, i made this mistake by dropping it 2in without doing the struts too and within two months my car was bouncing up and down the road.

So far the consensus is that koni yellows are the best struts to get but more expensive, and they will work with a 2in drop ( in which looks good, but dont go any lower than that. )_

This time around im getting koni yellows and dropping it 2inches in the front and 1 inch in the rear for a raked look.

Kyb agxs will be good to since you can adjust them and should hold up to a 1inch drop with no issues.

 

[PedroMartinez]

So what about this set up ?? The Eibach sportlines that drop about 1.8" and the Kyb GSX struts?? how about that?? Good , No , Bad ?? or good Yes Yes ?? what about ?

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Really bad.
Sportlines are way too low for the spring rates they have (less than stock I believe). These are bad springs to use no matter what struts you're using.
And what do you mean KYB GSX struts? You mean KYB AGX struts?
If so, those will blow with any drop more severe than Pro-Kits, in most cases. Many unsatisfies owners on this board that lowered too far on they're AGX's and had them blow.

What is your budget?

 

[PedroMartinez]

Ill have about 500 dollars. but i can go w/ more .... my parents are also chipping in ...

 

[IslandTSI]

HR sports (not the oe) might be a good spring to look into. Lower around 1.7" and have a stiffer spring rate. Pair them up with a nice set of struts. You will need to save another couple hundred to do it right though.

 

[turbosax2]

Consider saving a little more money up and going for a set of coilovers. With most kits you can adjust the dampening force so you can somewhat control how smooth it will ride (it's definitely not going to be like a Cadillac though). The best part is you can control the height so you can try it out real low and see how you like it. If it's too low you can keep adjusting the height until you get it just right. The coilovers cost more but are worth it for the versatility.

 

[OwninFools]

I'm going with KYB GR-2 struts with eibach springs 2" drop

 

[IslandTSI]

Dont do that. The gr-2's are a stock replacement strut. They wont hold up to a drop like that and your money will be wasted

 

[dan2288]

yea, atleast get the agx's

 

[PieEyedPiper]

For $500 get AGX's and Pro-Kits. Thats my suggestion.

 

[PedroMartinez]

So are ground control coilovers good???


also is this a good idea ?? AGX's and Eibach Pro-Kit ?? would this do fine for my car?? would they hold pretty good??

also if i get ground control coilovers what kinda struts could i use??

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Ground Controls are aweosme, especially since you cna choose your spring rates (choose wisely). You can just tell GC what shocks you will be using ( I suggest AGX's or Koni's ) and they will ship your the right parts. Call them up though before buying and talk to them about your setup.
This is expensive though.

I still think you'll be fine with AGX's and Prokits.

 

[crazy_skier]

i'm running the agx's and the pro-kit on my awd and love it - i was on 1.7" drop springs and you cant align the front end without having the control arms dent the strut towers (on a 2G) I now love the ride and with my lip (rmdsm) I can still barely fit my foot under the front bumper - perfect medium