Turbo HP ratings, rank this list from MAX to MIN

[ChiGGz]

ok.. ALOT of turbos out there so I'd like to know how you would rank these turbos in order of Most to Least HP gains on an optimal setup for each. Being around the forums so long and not knowing what turbo has more gains than another sucks.

14b, 16g (+ all the variants), 20G, T3/T4, 50 Trim, 60 Trim and anymore you can add to the list.

I may have duplicated some in the list cause I'm not sure if they go by different names but are the same thing. Please Add more to the list if you can!.

Use this format
1. 60 Trim (Hp supported)
2. 50 Trim (Hp supported)
3. etc etc

Let's see the lists!

 

[Rob10_99]

after this reaches 100 pages lets cut it down and put it as a sticky!
oh pictures too!
WTF

 

[tharaka]

Mitsubishi:
16g = 34lb/min
Big 16g = 36lb/min
EVO III Big 16g = 36-40lb/min (DSMLink has logged several 40+) NEW!!!
20g = 44lb/min

Forced Performance:
Big28 = 37lb/min
FP2544 = 44lb/min (56trim/ dual BB)
Sleeper 16g = 44lb/min
Green = 49lb/min (50 trim)
FP49 = 49lb/min (50 trim, T31 turbine)
Red = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, dyno 520whp)
FP3052 = 52lb/min (dyno 504whp)
FP3065 = 65lb/min (dyno 585whp)
FP58 = 65lb/min (GT40 56 trim comp. wheel, .49A/R PTE, T350 turbine)

AGP:
T28 = 36lb/min (TB03 compressor)
RS43 = 43lb/min (46 trim T04E)
SS44 = 44lb/min (It is a 44lb/min but not a 48trim. It is not a GT30 at all. It?s special, topsecret, Kevin)
RS49 = 49lb/min (50 trim T04E)
RS60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim) (claimed 534whp)
RS65 = 65lb/min (56 trim GT40)

DSM Performance/Extreme Turbo: UPDATED!!!
ETA12 = 36lb/min (S-trim, ETA comp housing)
ETA32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, ETA comp housing)
ETE32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E comp housing)
ETE42 = 50lb/min (60 trim, TO4E)
ETE52 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, TO4E)
ETE53 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
ETE73 = 72lb/min (T66 comp wheel, T04E) NEW!!!

Buschur Racing: UPDATED!!!
BR-BIG28 = (claimed 350hp) NEW!!!
BR20G = (TD05/6 hybrid, first in 10s)
BR475 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
BR57 = (Garrett T3/T4)
BR500 = (claimed 504whp)
BR580 = (claimed 575whp)
BR675 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!

Slowboy Racing: UPDATED!!!
SBR-M50 = 48lb/min (50 trim)
SBR-M60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim)
SBR-GT10 = 44lb/min (48 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT11 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT12 = 55lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT13 = 60lb/min (60 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT14 = 65lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT35R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT30R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-G50 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-G57 = 55lb/min (56 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-60-1 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!

Frankenstein Turbos:
Frank 1 = 46 trim, 20*clipped TD05H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 2 = 46 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 50 = 50 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 3 = 54 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 57 = 57 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 4 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 5 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 6 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing
Frank 7 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing

GT30 (ball bearing) turbos:
48 trim = 44lbs/min
52 trim = 50lbs/min
56 trim = 55lbs/min
60 trim = 60lbs/min
gt35 trim = 65lbs/min

Garrett:
T-28 = 34lb/min (350BHP)
50 trim = 47lb/min
57 trim = 49lb/min
60-1 = 65lb/min

The following is from Turbonetics Catalog:

On TO4E Compressor housings:
50-trim = 47lbs/min
54-trim = 45lbs/min
57-trim = 49lbs/min
60-trim = 50lbs/min
T-100 = 180lbs/min

TO4B compressor housing:
60-1 = 65lbs/min
62-1 = 70lbs/min

 

[GSXspeeddemon]

FP makes three variation of the 20g (tdo6, td05, and td06h) what are the difference in flow rates with these.

 

[DGajre777]

There are many many many variations when it comes to rating turbos by HP, which is why people use cfm or lbs/min.

Good info tharaka!

 

[flyinghighlm]

It appears I thought I was doing ok with a MHI S16G, appears now I am wrong,

Damn good info, can that be put in a sticky or something for future reference, MODS???

 

[GVR4592]

That list isn't completely accurate.

FP makes three variation of the 20g (tdo6, td05, and td06h) what are the difference in flow rates with these.

None, the flow rates are for compressors, the TDO5, TDO6 and TDO6h are turbine wheel options.

 

[king_of_HTX]

That list isn't completely accurate.



None, the flow rates are for compressors, the TDO5, TDO6 and TDO6h are turbine wheel options.

I know this is a old thread but could someone elaborate on this a little?

 

[thekellbeast]

Compressors are rated at certain flow rates, which is just the max that wheel can push. For example the 50 trim compressor wheel can push 49lb/min of air.

The turbine options are just the exhaust side, and the more free flowing the exhaust side is, the easier it is to reach that max airflow rating for the compressor. The easier it is to spin the exhaust side of the turbo, the easier it is to spin the compressor side.
By flowing exhaust through the turbine more easily, you're making it more efficient. That means that you can push more air at a lower pressure, and less heat. You're making way easier for yourself when your goal is max HP. Now, when you're going for maximum flow, the tradeoff is late spool. Your choice.

Some people bi*** about lag on a 16g, others will run a non-bb Red and love it.

 

[tsitalon03]

im pretty surprised the FPbig 28 out flows a big 16g

 

[kspharris]

Where is all the Holset info. I mean I know they flow like Jay Z an all but still, does anyone have any info on them?

 

[bling5tatus]

Holsets may be good, but jay z sucks, that's out of the scope of this thread though.

What about the smaller turbos as well... the 13b/g and whatever other smaller mhi turbos there are. What about the turbos that come stock on the nissan cars?

 

[king_of_HTX]

I'm just wondering. When someone rates a turbo by Horsepower, for example: 20G 400hp or something. Does that mean that the car will not be able to make no more than 400??

 

[architechnik]

I'm fairly certain that the HP rating for a turbo is just the relative target hp.

While some advertisements will present it as more of a, "This turbo will make your car have this HP," the rating is more intended to gage - based on a target for the build.

Obtaining a higher HP becomes more difficult because there just won't be enough airflow, no matter how much fuel you can provide.

For a breakdown, consider a 2.0L as a standard for these turbos, then calculate how much air and fuel can be compressed into that size and the resulting force (HP) from that combustion. Once again, these are general calculations and will change with RPMs, valve clearance, and just about every other modification.

EDIT: And yes Jay-Z sucks.

 

[brute]

Flow Rates @ 15psi:

TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM

Multiply the CFM value by 0.069 to convert to lbs/min.

 

[kspharris]

You guys are all over Jay-Z and yeah I know he sucks but he can flow good. But the reason for my post was about the Holsets. Does anyone have any info on them?

 

[deflator]

TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM

TFO8L? What is that used in? 89 lbs/min, all I could find was that it was used by Hyundai