Dsm Link Vs Key Driver Chip

[TSI_AWD_95]

Whats up, a Friend of mine wants to mod his GST, I told him to get the link, but he's pretty set on getting the key driver chip, but he's worried about getting it and it messing up his ECU, so what's the plus and minuses of this chip, and which one is better? is this chip all it's cracked up to be?

 

[95undrpsi]

Chip: Preprogramed to what you have and Can't Change unless sent in.Plus side you don't have to screw around with anything and you don't need a laptop.
Link: Preprogrammed to what injectors you have, but if your set up changes you can modify fuel,ignition,timing,launch,Rev,limit. Down fall you can blow up your car if you don't know what you are doing.
I still would go with link because you never know what you are going to do in the future.

 

[DGajre777]

Chip: Preprogramed to what you have and Can't Change unless sent in.Plus side you don't have to screw around with anything and you don't need a laptop.
Link: Preprogrammed to what injectors you have, but if your set up changes you can modify fuel,ignition,timing,launch,Rev,limit. Down fall you can blow up your car if you don't know what you are doing.
I still would go with link because you never know what you are going to do in the future.

What ^^^ said.

The chip will do everything DSMLink does, except the ability to change parameters. www.dsmchips.com (Keydiver) makes changes for $20 last time I checked.

Another aspect is that you can have the A/F ratio that you want to run preprogrammed on the chip. With DSMlink you will need a wideband to do this.

The biggest difference is cost - Stage III chip is $125, DSMLink is $565 + laptop.

 

[gsx rated98]

Both are good, but i easily suggest DSMLink. You have a much wider range of values to adjust with the link, as with the chip, your just stuck with what you have. If you want to change anything, you will need an AFC to change the fuel, and thats it. Anything else you will need to send it off to have adjusted.
You do not need a wideband with DSMLink, though it will give you a more accurate reading, but that would go the same with the chip of your doing any A/F adjustments after its programmed.
If you want to fire and forget, then yes go with the chip. But if you want to tweek your setup to find every last bit of power, get the link.

 

[DGajre777]

You do not need a wideband with DSMLink, though it will give you a more accurate reading, but that would go the same with the chip of your doing any A/F adjustments after its programmed.

I agree, but with a chip if you get a preprogrammed map to run 11.5 A/F ratio (for example), a wideband is not needed.

 

[talon1987]

Why would a wideband not be needed ... what if your fuel pumps giving out at high rpm and you start to run lean you would never know without a wideband.

 

[DGajre777]

Why would a wideband not be needed ... what if your fuel pumps giving out at high rpm and you start to run lean you would never know without a wideband.

I meant a wideband wouldn't be needed on a 11.5 A/F ratio preprogrammed chip to tune it to 11.5 A/F ratio. I'm sorry for not clarifying.

 

[edsgst]

Assuming your friends GST is a 2g, there is a another option between the
stage 3 chip and Link. What about a flashable 98-99 ecu? You can order one from Jeff O at dsmchips that would be ready to go, like a stage 3 chip, but have the ability to flash later, like link

 

[snowborder714]

Take a look at the time stamp...

 

[Cesarlcase]

I never knew about reflash ecu's glad you mentioned it!

 

[RadDsm]

Assuming your friends GST is a 2g, there is a another option between the
stage 3 chip and Link. What about a flashable 98-99 ecu? You can order one from Jeff O at dsmchips that would be ready to go, like a stage 3 chip, but have the ability to flash later, like link

I know this thread is old, but I thought I'd clear this up.

You can't use a Keydiver chip with a 98-99 ECU because they never came with Eproms.

 

[steve]

I know this thread is old, but I thought I'd clear this up.

You can't use a Keydiver chip with a 98-99 ECU because they never came with Eproms.

Jeff sells 98/99 ECUs that he has flashed. I don't know if he has added any more features over what somebody could get using the Ceddy code and flashing the ECU themselves.

 

[sirslex]

The chip will do everything DSMLink does, except the ability to change parameters. DSMChips.com | DSM ECU Chips Enchanced by Keydiver (Keydiver) makes changes for $20 last time I checked.

Another aspect is that you can have the A/F ratio that you want to run preprogrammed on the chip. With DSMlink you will need a wideband to do this.

The biggest difference is cost - Stage III chip is $125, DSMLink is $565 + laptop.

Just my two cents worth, but looking at the costs... not even including the computer... one could reasonably buy multiple stage III chips and still not reach the cost of one DSMLink.

Someday I hope to understand the mysterious intricacies of tuning, but (for me at least) getting a chip set to what I'm currently running will certainly be the route of choice.




by the way, since I know this was originally an older post, how do the prices stack up currently?

 

[Tigerhorns]

Ay talk about bring up the past someone cant move on rofl

I'm thinking im going to go the chip route though dsmchips.com!!!!!

 

[sirslex]

Ay talk about bring up the past someone cant move on rofl

I'm thinking im going to go the chip route though dsmchips.com!!!!!

I would consider them as an option too, except *this* is what I get when I go to their website...


***Due to scheduling problems, I am not selling any new chips at this time. Legitimate DSMChip owners can still place orders for an upgrade, but I am not taking any new orders.***