N/t water pipe for 50 trim on 2g

[Glliw]

So I need help on this quick. I'm still having trouble with the install of my 50 trim. I think going to a N/T water pipe would help, but I only see this being told to 1g's. Would the gs waterpipe work for me? How much smaller is it really?

 

[Glliw]

anyone know? I'm trying to get this fixed tomorrow.

 

[want_a_gsx]

to tell you the truth bro, i have no clue if the n/t waterpipe would fit your car. if no one answers to your post, your best bet is to go out there and buy one and check it out for yourself.

also, i have heard of "denting" the water pipe so the housing can fit.

http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119398&highlight=denting+water+pipe

hope this helps,
Omar

 

[Glliw]

Yea i tried denting it, cracked the o-ring. I've reached the end of my limits. I'm taking it to Big10 to have them do it for me tomorrow. I was just wondering if the N/T would work better so they don't have to dent it.

 

[CanadianTSi]

You have to slowly "gently" hit the pipe when you dent it.

 

[Glliw]

Heh, I did. It had so much fitment issues. The turbo itself hit the block as well when installed too. I grinded that down though. I just think I reached the end of my patience this time around.

 

[want_a_gsx]

which 50 trim is this? i was thinking about going 50 probably next summer but if its gonna be this much trouble.....

 

[Glliw]

SBR g50. I am very displeased with fitment. Oil return line was too long as well.

 

[CanadianTSi]

"Bolt-on" is kind of a relative term

 

[want_a_gsx]

how much have you spent on the whole 50 trim setup so far?

 

[crazy_skier]

what turbo header are you using, this is another large factor on the fitment, I have a garrett 50 trim and all that had to be done was gently dent the waterline by using a block and hitting it with a hammer small amounts at a time. If you have a header that does not hang the turbo far enough out, you will have poor clearance issues. check all that out to

 

[Glliw]

Its the stock 2g manifold. I was 997 bucks for the turbo, internal gate, feed and drain lines, and gaskets.

 

[want_a_gsx]

oh man thats a ton of money...

but yeah i think its all because of the "bolt on" characteristics that allow it to bolt on to the mitsu style manifolds.

the t3/t4 50 trims dont require you to bend the water pipe, but then you need to get a custom o2 housing and i also heard the stock fans dont fit. so you would have to get thinner aftermarket fans.

997. good thing it wasnt a grand tho

 

[Glliw]

So the shop i tried to get to do the water pipe for me, just because it pissed me off so much, wouldn't do it because they don't feel comfortable working on a turbocharged vehicle. Isn't that a load of horse crap?
So I'm gonna do it myself. I know its not hard, but I just get pushed to that limit sometimes. Gotta wait til friday for the part though.

 

[crazy_skier]

while you are at it, just completly remove the radiatior fan on the turbo side (unless aftermarket slimlines) It gives me alot more room in my engine bay. Also, I am not sure but could it be that the 2G oem manifold doesnt stick out far enough???

 

[Skunked tsi]

Clock the compressor cover, the reason people use the nt water pipe is because it doesnt have the water supply in it for a turbo. Which you have to cap. You also have to plug the one on the block. Another thing you cant use a 1g water pipe without a 1g thermostat housing. So if you are a 2g and have the stock 2g head no dice, but it is not needed, this is really and truly bolt on with minor tweaking.
Tyler

 

[Glliw]

Ok, I already took care of capping off the coolant feed and return. I think the main reason for the fitment issue is the flange size of the 2g oem manifold. yea, I remove the fans when working on it. Only takes a second to do so I don't see a reason why to struggle with them in there.

 

[silvah_gsx]

Evo III and SBR manifolds have thicker flange to keep the turbo a bit farther from the block and water pipe.

 

[Glliw]

Yea, I'll have it sorted by saturday though. Gotta wait til friday for that part. I know its still not sitting in there right, because im not hitting 15psi til 6k rpms

 

[Glliw]

Mk i'm getting extremly frustrated I Have the New exhuast manifold and still put in the dented pipe. the manifold gave more clearance and with the dented pipe i figured i had it for good. Got everything in there and started up the car. Sounds like a plane and there are exhuast fumes comeing off the manifold. the turbo was still touching the water pipe but i was hoping everything was bolted down good enough. Looks like it wasent. so I pulled the pipe back out and really put a hammering on it, Now it bends so it wont Reach the termostat housing. Guess the only thing to do is buy a new pipe and GENTLY hit it.