Future DSM Ideas...

[4G63_DSM]

Hi Everyone, This is a very long thread so if you don't have patience then please back out. Thanks...

I am mixed up upon my future decisioning. I have a 4G63 NT 2.0L DSM.

I was really going with the idea of a turbo kit. Not the turbo conversion, but a kit like a honda for instance.

The kit would consist of 14B Turbo, Exhaust Manifold, FWD Downpipe, 450 Injectors, Injector Resistor Pack, Turbo MAF, Turbo ECU, 1G BOV, SMIC, OEM Plumbing, all new turbo related gaskets and copper rings ect ect and a full new metal head gasket and arp head studs with all new timing parts, new plugs gapped colder, datalogger, safc, egt, boost gauge, and 93+ Octane 100% of the time.

I already bought the turbo. I am going to have a buddy of mine supply me with 70% of the parts for almost free.

The headgasket, timing, arp and all that and all the electronics will cost alot.

Now I already understand the whole weaker NT pistons, and there seat and all that however I really didnt want to get into tearing into the block. I REALLY didnt want to.

Now my second plan was to pull the head and replace with eagle/ross combo forged everything, new valve train, and everything else as of up there ^. Now that would be the safer and more powerful better way but that is also extremly expensive with the machine shops costs and part costs ect.

The third plan was to put it in the autotrader and many other places, Asking 2,500. The car is in very good condition thats why. I beleive for 2,500 I could find at least a 1G GS-T.

Now the third plan seems to be the easiest but I do NOT want to sell my car. I feel that since its my first car I would like to keep it. I have gone through alot with it so I want to keep it.

The motor also needs a good overhaul which is another reason that turns me to rebuilding.

The fourth plan was to stay non-turbo. However I would never see over 170 HP max Im not to fond of that plan at all.

Now, If I had the money the Second Plan would be the one I would perfer the most.

But I have no job right now, and I am currently looking for one. But at 16, minimum wage isnt any better then 7/hr.

I have like 2.50 to my name right now.

This is what makes it confusing. I would love to see this car be a 750 WHP DSM.

Please let me know what you guys think of the plans.

#1 Turbo Kit - Much Cheaper and Easier
#2 Full Rebuild and Turbo Kit - Much More Difficult and expensive but safer
#3 Sell and Buy GS-T Easiest quickest but most depression (rofl)
#4 Stay NT. - sucks sucks sucks

Thanks

 

[91orangeGST]

Your best bet would be to sell your car and buy a GST or GSX with around 100k. Your first option would probably result in a very short life of your engine. Second option would be alot of work and alot of experience required... also alot of money, which it seems like you dont have at this time. Not to mention the future problems youll be running into. Just sell your first love for a much faster second love. Also, when your looking at buying the new dsm BRING A COMPRESSION TESTER!!!! This is the most important thing that wil save you thousands of dollars in the future. Compression test the engine before you buy it! If it has anything below 140 across the board or a 10% diff than any other cylinder dont buy! The problem is, people run the crap out of dsms then when they know the engine is going they pass it on to someone else. Its a big problem. Also you can test the coolant for combustion fumes by using a dye kit. This will tell you if the headgasket is going. Also maybe try a vacume test to see what kind of numbers your getting. just unhook a vacume line from the engine and hook that to your tested and thats it. I think 20psi and above at idle are good. All of these test will take 15 min. at most and are well worth it!

I just done want to see someone get screwed on buying a junk car. Anyway best of luck!!!

 

[onegeenewbie]

Maybe taking off all your mods on your car now and sell the car as if it was stock... then buy your GST and transfer the mods onto/into that car. It'll take a little longer but might get you to your goal too. $0.02

 

[flyinghighlm]

Your best bet would be to sell your car and buy a GST or GSX with around 100k. Your first option would probably result in a very short life of your engine. Second option would be alot of work and alot of experience required... also alot of money, which it seems like you dont have at this time. Not to mention the future problems youll be running into. Just sell your first love for a much faster second love. Also, when your looking at buying the new dsm BRING A COMPRESSION TESTER!!!! This is the most important thing that wil save you thousands of dollars in the future. Compression test the engine before you buy it! If it has anything below 140 across the board or a 10% diff than any other cylinder dont buy! The problem is, people run the crap out of dsms then when they know the engine is going they pass it on to someone else. Its a big problem. Also you can test the coolant for combustion fumes by using a dye kit. This will tell you if the headgasket is going. Also maybe try a vacume test to see what kind of numbers your getting. just unhook a vacume line from the engine and hook that to your tested and thats it. I think 20psi and above at idle are good. All of these test will take 15 min. at most and are well worth it!

I just done want to see someone get screwed on buying a junk car. Anyway best of luck!!!

I agree 100%, its acutally a very similar thing that I did about a year ago. I sold a 92 talon n/t saved some money and bought a 92 GSX....again though check eveything you can and do some homework, do not get screwed with by someone shady, best of luck

 

[drocks22]

I agree with the other previous posters, because that's what I did . I had a 96 Talon N/T and was in love with everything about the car except for the lack of performance and the lack of potential performance. I saved up for a while, sold the car, and found a 97 GST that was immaculant. It took me a little longer to save up for a 2G but a cheap 1G would be a great way to go.

 

[DSMunknown]

I am mixed up upon my future decisioning. I have a 4G63 NT 2.0L DSM.

That statement right there is confusing. According to your car profile, you have a GS-T, which is turbocharged and has the 4G63 engine. If your ride doesn't have a turbocharger that is from the Mitsubishi factory, then you do not have the 4G63 engine (unless you did a swap, which I doubt). To sum up, you can't really have a 4G63 engine and have it be "NT".



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... and 93+ Octane 100% of the time.

And where, might I ask, are you going to find 93 octane in CA? Do you plan on mixing the octane and other fluids yourself?



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But I have no job right now, and I am currently looking for one. But at 16, minimum wage isnt any better then 7/hr.

I have like 2.50 to my name right now.

This is what makes it confusing. I would love to see this car be a 750 WHP DSM.

You have a long, long, long road ahead of you, noob. Having $2.50 to your name will never ever yield you a 700+ whp car. Start making a reasonable plan, save your money, learn the ropes, and come back when you know what you want. Get your butt off the computer and go get a job like the rest of us. Save, save, save. You will never be able to carry out ANY of those fantasies if you don't have the cash to back them up.


These kinds of posts make me sick

 

[Littlebeeper]

oh yes he does have a NT 4G63. look again. he has a 1G not a 2G. If he were talking about a 2G then you waould be right, i'm more than sure he's talking about a 1G though

 

[DSMunknown]

oh yes he does have a NT 4G63. look again. he has a 1G not a 2G. If he were talking about a 2G then you waould be right, i'm more than sure he's talking about a 1G though

Not according to his car profile, like I said.



http://dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=eclipse1gb



93 Eclipse GST is what it says next to his car type. He also claims to have a 14b turbo installed on the car (because it is in his "speed list"). If the turbo is not installed, but he just has it lying around, then it should not be in his list. He could only have a 4G63 engine without a turbocharger if he had a GS. If he chose the wrong type of car for his profile, then that's his fault.

 

[1990talon]

Yeah Get a job like the rest of us the go on this site at work and get paid for it : but you really do need to make relistic goals fix your profile and then come back and we will help you out the best we can.

 

[dsmclipse97]

You have a long, long, long road ahead of you, noob. Having $2.50 to your name will never ever yield you a 700+ whp car. Start making a reasonable plan, save your money, learn the ropes, and come back when you know what you want. Get your butt off the computer and go get a job like the rest of us. Save, save, save. You will never be able to carry out ANY of those fantasies if you don't have the cash to back them up.


These kinds of posts make me sick

even though this guy is a dick, hes right. Talking about owning a 700whp car when you dont have a turbo car or any money is a quick way to get flamed on this site. Get a job, save as much as possible (your gonna need alot of money) then come back.

 

[4G63_DSM]

ok for the guy who said because Im not turbo theres no way I can have a 4G63 Motor,

I respect 91 Orange's Advice and take it in greatly.

Thank you for all of your posts and time.

My profile says GS-T because I have a GS and a damn turbo on my desk. Yes, thats still a GS, but hey I was really and I mean REALLY getting close to turboing my car.

As for you that said to get a job, I did say that I am in the process of getting one its not that I came on here whining about no money and no job and not trying, I have had like 3 interviews in the past week.

Oh, and the Mr. Unknown, I now know to just litterally skip over your posts.

Peace

 

[4G63_DSM]

Oh and how am I gonna put 93 Octane in my tank?

Hmm Im guessing my local gas station...

Yeah thats right we have 93 as our "Premium."

Yes, The question was based on noob or beginner background but why are you calling me a noob and insulting my choice of post in the "Newbs" Forum.

Also, If newb forums or im sorry, these types of threads "Sicken" you, then why do you read them?

Again, I said in the begninng that it was going to be a long post so if your not the type to read long practically noob annoying posts then please do not read.

I think its halarious how people on the internet feel that they actually experience seniority because they have more posts and history at a "FORUM" then others.

 

[1990talon]

Your really going to piss some people off on this site and get no help. I would becareful what you say you may need there help one day.

 

[99gst_racer]

That statement right there is confusing. According to your car profile, you have a GS-T, which is turbocharged and has the 4G63 engine. If your ride doesn't have a turbocharger that is from the Mitsubishi factory, then you do not have the 4G63 engine (unless you did a swap, which I doubt). To sum up, you can't really have a 4G63 engine and have it be "NT".

I understand how you got confused, but to say there's no such thing as a N/T 4G63 in a 1G is just ludicrous.

My profile says GS-T because I have a GS and a damn turbo on my desk. Yes, thats still a GS, but hey I was really and I mean REALLY getting close to turboing my car.

Wow. You have a turbocharged desk? .

Your car is a GS and will be until the turbo is installed. If it's on the desk, on your lap, in the microwave or in a tree, it still doesn't make your car a GST until it's running on your engine.


This thread started as weak sauce and only got weaker. We'll let this one go.