Can i get my car into the 14's with a 14b? (2g, auto)

[Low Impedance]

really really lame topic i know, but my daily driver is a 95 talon tsi awd automatic. I have alot of left over parts from my other project cars, and i want to use some of them. i have a TD04 (14b) from a 1g talon tsi. (i took the manifold and o2 thing as well. and the bypass valve), an emanage blue, 460, 550, 680, 720, 950, 780, and 1600cc injector sets. (rotary guy= huge ass injectors)


i ran a 16.3 with the t25 which is kinda seen better days...case in point, hits 14 lbs (even with the restrictor removed in the BCS) then drops to 11-12 sometimes 10. for the last 3000 rpms. woo. i have a KandN Oval looking filter. and that is it. the car is uber stock.

so i got the 14b in great shape for very cheap. now, if i port the manifold and o2 dump, then run a better exhaust, run my emanage, how close can i get to 14's? will i need anything bigger than the stock injector size? i plan on getting a pocketlogger because that is the coolest little do dad ive ever seen, and it should help with tuning.

thoughts?

 

[fourreGsixty3]

All you really need to run 14s on a 14B is a good tune, and seat time. Porting the o2 and manifold is a good idea, also get a hard air intake pipe, with a 1G BOV, the stock 2G BOV leaks at like 14psi, really weak, the 1g can hold 23psi before leaking. Go with a 2.5" turbo-back with hi flow cat, and you will be looking towards 12s and 13s.

Dustin

 

[timloomis]

I hit 14.7 with the 14b on 16psi.Second run ever,95+ degree day,and 23 counts of knock half track on.14b at 12 psi should get you in the 14's easy,since you have a 2g and higher compression pistons.But a 14b is the td05h turbo,the td04 is the smaller 13g on 1g auto's.

 

[EclipseTrbo420A]

really really lame topic i know, but my daily driver is a 95 talon tsi awd automatic. I have alot of left over parts from my other project cars, and i want to use some of them. i have a TD04 (14b) from a 1g talon tsi. (i took the manifold and o2 thing as well. and the bypass valve), an emanage blue, 460, 550, 680, 720, 950, 780, and 1600cc injector sets. (rotary guy= huge ass injectors)


i ran a 16.3 with the t25 which is kinda seen better days...case in point, hits 14 lbs (even with the restrictor removed in the BCS) then drops to 11-12 sometimes 10. for the last 3000 rpms. woo. i have a KandN Oval looking filter. and that is it. the car is uber stock.

so i got the 14b in great shape for very cheap. now, if i port the manifold and o2 dump, then run a better exhaust, run my emanage, how close can i get to 14's? will i need anything bigger than the stock injector size? i plan on getting a pocketlogger because that is the coolest little do dad ive ever seen, and it should help with tuning.

thoughts?

I believe the tdo4 is the 13G from the 1G Automatics. It is smaller.

*Edit* Your pretty quick Timloomis.......till we meet again......

 

[timloomis]

.Thwarted!

 

[Low Impedance]

DAMN! the car was an auto! foiled again. well turbo dodges use the same turbos (mistus) so i might rebuild one of my friends TD05s from a Tdodge.

 

[Low Impedance]

also, my car is also an auto, so i doubt the times are going to be that good. (ie 12's/13's)

 

[danny_l_2005]

yea easily. 14b is a TDO5H. I went 15.1@91 at 14psi, leaking boost , and a slipping transmission.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

also, my car is also an auto, so i doubt the times are going to be that good. (ie 12's/13's)

It doesnt matter if its an auto, there are very fast auto's in the 10s, an auto shifts much quicker then a person ever could. Good catch guys on the TD04 bit, didnt even notice it, .

Dustin

 

[thekellbeast]

very fast auto's in the 10s,

Plus you never let off the throttle, so you never drop out of boost.

 

[xSojooxShotzx]

I've always heard the saying, "Impress the highschool girls with a manual, impress the stands at the track with your auto."

Aren't most of the drivers on the board w/the top track times automatics anyways?

Howie~

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Dont think so, shep, kiggly, Jack(evil_eagle), have manuals. ITP has the worlds quickest auto, I believe it passed the 1320 at 145mph, with a 9 or 10 sec pass.

Dustin

 

[Low Impedance]

well im pissed i bought than damn 13g then, (spent 3 hours at the yard pulling it)

anyone want to buy a 13g? damn good shape!

is it possible to swap the compressor side of another mitsu turbo and use the good bearings on the 13g?

 

[timloomis]

The dodge turbo your talking about has a different compressor cover,and a different exhaust housing.Your better off finding a used 14b off the classifieds.

 

[Low Impedance]

hmm...so could i hit 14's with the 13g

 

[Spooling99]

Doubtful, Just try and sell that turbo to a guy with a 3000GT. Remember they have to use that AND a bigger turbo (15g) to make power. Just try to find a good used 14b in the classifieds.

 

[92tsibacker]

You could still get into the 14's with that 13g. I havent went to the track lately but I know my car should be in the mid 14's with my 1g auto. I just have catback exhuast and ported header off ebay. Ibeat my bros cobalt ss superchered and he ran a 14.7