2.3l stroker

[dope96clipse]

ok im not a newb to the dsm world but dont know where to post this so here i go. i am in the process of looking and pricing the parts to build a 2.3l stroker motor for an eclipse. I am currently looking to buy

Forged Steel 2.4 crankshaft
Eagle Rod Set
Weisco Piston & Prem Ring Set, 8.74:1
Preminum ACL Rod & Main Brg set

i just need to know what head would be best for a 2.3l, i kno theres alot more i need to buy but those are the def. parts i will be installing in the block. so can someone please help me or just point me to a company with the right heads for a 2.3 thanks

 

[bignbumpin]

I recently had the same questions as you. I went with a Stroker kit from a place called Car Shop Inc. The kit is the cheapest around, and the parts are high quality. I am very pleased with mine. Here is a link ------> Car Shop Stroker Kit

As for the head, If you are using your 4G63 motor, the head does not need to be changed. Only the block needs machine work to stroke the motor. Of course head work cant hurt..... Hope This helps you. Let us know what you go with

 

[dope96clipse]

ok cool thanks, that makes me fell alot better, that means i can run a stock head to save some money at first. then i will save for a stage 2 or 3 yay does anyone have a recommendation to where to get a good used block? thanks

 

[out there]

are you putting this in a fwd car? good lord...
as far as used block, just check the junkyards, lots of dsms; good luck finding one that still has the engine though, all of them around here are empty

 

[bignbumpin]

ok cool thanks, that makes me fell alot better, that means i can run a stock head to save some money at first. then i will save for a stage 2 or 3 yay does anyone have a recommendation to where to get a good used block? thanks

Whats wrong with your block?

 

[my95tsi]

are you putting this in a fwd car? good lord...
as far as used block, just check the junkyards, lots of dsms; good luck finding one that still has the engine though, all of them around here are empty

Whats wrong with putting it in a fwd?? Hmm lets see....the 2.3 will rev a little slower and matched with a big turbo will drastically decrease spool up time. That in turn will cause the powerband to be much more linear compared to the stock 4g63 with the t25. Meaning less power early on and tons of power later on. (Thats exactly what a fwd wants) That setup will probably turn up much better times from a fwd than any other setup.

 

[out there]

when the big turbo starts to spool, it's going to hit hard, there goes traction. with a turbo, power isn't very linear... especially with more displacement
fwd + more displacement + big turbo = no traction

 

[midnght]

And the post is now a VS. thread. Outstanding.


FWD is perfectly fine to put a stroker in. I get tired of posting a nice 9sec FWD Laser vid. If I must I will post it again. Why are people sooo narrowminded?

Simply suggest that he/she (anyone) that is thnking of making great power is to FOCUS on the suspension and get a true LSD. I know everyone is on the 1320 mindset, but I could care less what my 60' is. Just an Opinion is all.

 

[dope96clipse]

naw sorry for got to remove my gst from my profile i sold it a few months back cuz of school, and no i dont have a block. im purchasing a 1g awd rolling chasis talon or eclipse i actually havemy eyes set on this gsx not too far from me, and midnght i will be putting suspension and a true lsd in my car, i just want to get the 2.3l stroker running b4 i race it an im not stuck on 1320 either i want my car to be able to take corners too

 

[out there]

if i were narrow-minded, i wouldn't have bothered with the thread at all.
i agree that fwd can be mean in the 1/4, but i was also of the opinion that someone so new to dsms should not play around by building a stroked engine first

 

[dope96clipse]

are yo implicating that cuz ive onlybeen around dsms for a yr n half that im stupid when it comes to them?.. well sorry to say im not i love the cars and have practically rebuilt both 1gs and 2gs over the las 2 years. and i just posted this to see what people think would be best for my car since i havent ever built a motor from scratch for a DSM so dont go ####in asume someone doenst know anything

 

[out there]

calm down there hot-head... i only commented on not building a stroker right away because the stock bore and stroke of the 4g63 is quite potent. nothing was directed at your intelligence or knowledge

i'm not trying to stoke a fire or anything, but if you keep typing like your last post, many people on here won't answer your questions just because you don't come across as being intelligent. don't argue, gripe or start flaming me, i'm just telling you before a moderator does.

 

[dope96clipse]

as i already stated in replies i thanked ppl for their helpfulness, and i take what you said "i was also of the opinion that someone so new to dsms should not play around by building a stroked engine first" to be something of telling me i prolly dont know what im ddoing

 

[out there]

well, when you stated that you were new to dsms, i felt it was a safe assumption that you hadn't built a 2L near it's full potential. when i read about what a stroke 4g63 is capable of, i decided i would like to do that with my car... but now i realize that i should perhaps see why the guys around here leave the bottom end alone and are still running below 12 without any reliability issues. in fact, to be a competitive dsm around here, you need to run at least high 11s (note: they're all 2L)

 

[dope96clipse]

first off read things i sed "ok im not a newb to the dsm world ", and yes i know alot ppl leave the bottom end alone but 2.3l motor is torquier and its not as seen in the dsm world.
so i would like to have a somewhat unique motor

 

[out there]

:slaps forehead: argh, i'm sorry, i can't read... i read it as "newb to dsm world"
man do i feel like a fool. :laugh:
i don't really understand why you'd want to use the 2.3 in a fwd, but i am curious to see how it works out

 

[dope96clipse]

again read complete posts as sed earlier..."for got to remove my gst from my profile i sold it a few months back cuz of school, .... im purchasing a 1g awd rolling chasis talon or eclipse", so i will build it an put in that

 

[liquordrunk]

a stroker in a FWD is fine i if the suspension is set up its all go

 

[dope96clipse]

yes i agree, but ive had 2 fwd...im done with them, i want a awd now n its gunna be a ####in beast .. Expected date of Completion is 08/05

 

[liquordrunk]

i have a fwd also and i jsut bought an AWD so like u said its on now theres nothin like an AWD launch

 

[bignbumpin]

Am I the only one who sees more than one benefit to the stroker motor? Not only will it up the displacement giving it more obvious power, it decreases spool time, and for those of us who will be using it as a street/strip setup, it has more torque. Meaning that driving around on the street wont suck too bad because you wont have to wait for that huge turbo to spool for any usable power, regardless of FWD or AWD. Just my opinions so no flaming...

 

[out there]

i've always thought an addition .2-.4 of displacement would be nice, but i'm thinking of doing something similar to what the all-motor guys do. instead of having gears that are about 35 at 7-7.5k, why not build for something like... (1st) 40-45 at 10k, (2nd) 70-75 at 10k, etc? essentially, shorter gears that are still about as tall as stock (give or take). an 88mm stroke is shorter than the b18, so it isn't so unbelievable that our engines could handle it.
just some thoughts

 

[dope96clipse]

its very easy to beleive that the motor can handle it, its a cast iron block more then strong enough and to produce the 10k range u would have to replace the head so why ur at it why not pull the motor bore it an put bigger pistons in? not that bigger pistons do that much and putting a larger crank gives more rotational motion causing more output of power to the drive train and not to mention the power it adds

 

[out there]

a longer stroke would not be a good idea... why do you think that 4g64 hybrid shift so low? higher rpms and longer stroke mean faster piston speeds; and when boost is added... melting is most likely

 

[bignbumpin]

a longer stroke would not be a good idea... why do you think that 4g64 hybrid shift so low? higher rpms and longer stroke mean faster piston speeds; and when boost is added... melting is most likely

Im not sure where you are going with this...a stroked motor doesnt rev as high as the 2.0...