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Old 08-26-2008, 07:42 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I wanted to go OEM just to be safe.


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Old 08-26-2008, 08:34 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Good call Nathan, that should cover it Like Pat said the Moly Lube SHOULD be included. I say should because when I got my ARP's the first set had the thread missing on one of the nuts, then when I received a replacement set (I kept the first until I knew the second was good), I don't remember exactly but I think it was, something else was missing. So had to make 1 set out of 2.

Don't feel bad about the OEM gaskets, I'm sure I paid alot more then you from the local dealer (JNZ usually has pretty good prices on OEM & seems to have good customer service, unlike some of the other online OEM dealers, extremepsi is also another good place)

Headstuds really aren't that hard at all, don't be a wuss Until I had the Eclipse I had never gone "into" a motor before either. Headstuds, cams, valve spings, lifters, valve stem seals, timing belt, etc., all not hard to do at all. Were luckey that there's a tonn of info out there for our cars & even more guys that have already done it to theirs

So look up the factory torque sequence, pull the first bolt, chase it with a tap if you have one (I didn't at the time) & blow it out good with compressed air. Then install one new stud & what I did was bottom it out several times (with abit of force) & then back it off to make sure the stud was going all the way down. Then once again bottom out the stud & back it off 1/4 turn to make sure you don't have any torque applied to the stud itself. Then install your washer & nut & torque it to spec in steps as you normally would (of course using the Molylube). Then go on to the next stud in the factory sequence. IIRC the ARP spec is 75 ft/lbs with Moly for the 7 bolt but I did mine to 90 ft/lbs. Some say follow exactly what the factory recommends while other say to give it abit more. All I can say is that so far min have been great (2 or 3 summers now)

For the O2 sensor, is your replacement an OEM Mitsu? Have heard the "aftermarket" ones can sometimes not last to long in our applications.
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:13 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I was reading around and saw that you should apply a thin layer of RTV to only the valve cover side of the gasket along with the top of the half moon gasket. What I didn't see was anything about putting RTV on the spark plug well gaskets. Is that necessary?

I saw a couple of your posts about the head stud installation and was going to go that route. One stud at a time and put the washer in place before threading in the stud so I don't have to worry about clearance issues. Are you supposed to be liberal with the Moly lube, or just a thin coat? I have the torque sequence written down that I found here, since it looks like the one in the Haynes is incorrect. I'll be using this one:

7 5 2 4 10
9 3 1 6 8

It looks like I'll also need to pick up an 11mm 12 point socket and the stock bolts are standard 6 point. So basically it's just a matter of pulling the valve cover, cracking loose bolt #1. Removing the bolt, setting the washer in place, lubing the threads and threading in the stud a couple of times. Then back it off about a quarter turn? Install the nut, and tighten using the APR installation instructions step method? Repeat with #2, and so on.

Sounds pretty straight forward to me and from all my reading, it doesn't see as though anyone runs into any problems. Other than having to work to get the stud out sometimes.

As for the O2 sensor, it's straight from the dealer. Unless I'm upgrading something like the exhaust or injectors, I go with OEM.


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Yes, looks like you've basically got it all covered. I don't have the factory torque sequence infront of me, but that looks correct. As for the RTV, you shouldn't need to use it on either the spark plug gaskets or the large main gasket. The only spot for the RTV is around the half moon & then in the corners of the cam caps. The rest should seal properly with the use of RTV.
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