Blowing up a 420a

[Ricardo18]

Is this really what guys who are into 4g63's are like? I mean. How many people feel this way about the 420a??

Personally, I wouldn't do that to any motor and don't believe any true enthusiast would. If you believe otherwise, let me know, but I came across this video on youtube..and it's mind boggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa4wALLrP00&feature=related

 

[danielbo91]

Looks like fun i would do it haha

 

[Junkyardspecial]

I wouldnt do that, I feel like every car has potential, its just not right.

I guess thats what happens when you have the brain cell count of a cubs fan.

 

[agarc023]

I think this video has been posted before..

 

[g4ebguy90]

That thing blowed up pretty quick...

 

[95talongirl]

By the amount of smoke it was producing, I'd say that it was already on its way out. However, they did this in a rather boring way. Should've put nitrous on it and did some one-wheel peels with it.
Would've made for a more entertaining video.

Now if this was a good running car, then yea, I'd say it would be rather asinine to just "blow it up."
But this one looked sick already.

 

[boostin_93]

Stupid ass just dont appreciate what he has

 

[newTSIguy]

4g63 ftw..

 

[blindboarder_02]

Pretty nasty sounding towards the end of its life, real angry.

 

[Boostinsideways]

If I was planning on takeing the engine to scrap anyways (i.e. swapping in something else) I would do the same thing. 420a engines are a dime a dozen. I've been trying to sell a 420a long block locally for 3 months. I had one person low ball me for 100$. ####ing hate those people. I hope he had a girlfriend because I've been spamming his cell with random ass nudy pics from exgfrevenge.com

 

[Eclipsed]

Your prob should have pulled, and sold the engine... Seeing as how your so obese, you could have used the money towards a personal trainer.

Orav911 9 months ago 9

Haha.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Looks like a partout, or scrap yard is in his future..Also look like fun..

I tried blowing up an older bonneville a couple years ago..Pegging it off redline for ten minutes it just wouldn't die..So we got out the guns and blew the shit out of it that way..Now that was fun..

 

[g4ebguy90]

If I was planning on takeing the engine to scrap anyways (i.e. swapping in something else) I would do the same thing. 420a engines are a dime a dozen. I've been trying to sell a 420a long block locally for 3 months. I had one person low ball me for 100$. ####ing hate those people. I hope he had a girlfriend because I've been spamming his cell with random ass nudy pics from exgfrevenge.com

I like that site.

 

[red_devil]

Very dumb what if something came out and hit someone or something.

 

[mainerdsm]

god i hate the way the 420a sounds...this video reminds me why. Its more raspy than a honda.

 

[Ricardo18]

god i hate the way the 420a sounds...this video reminds me why. Its more raspy than a honda.

Depends on the exhaust you put on it. Almost any exhaust will sound raspy if done incorrectly. Check this out. It's mine btw

Eclipse magnaflow catback and headers - YouTube

 

[half-cocked]

Depends on the exhaust you put on it. Almost any exhaust will sound raspy if done incorrectly. Check this out. It's mine btw

Eclipse magnaflow catback and headers - YouTube

I agree, there is an Evo X up the street from where I work that has an obnoxious exhaust that makes that car sound like absolute dump. I remember going to some VW meets with some buddies and it always seemed like they had some bug engine there destined for doom. They would have it on an engine stand, drain the oil start it and pin it wide open then time it. Everyone would throw a couple bucks in and bet on when it was gonna grenade.

 

[tstkl]

its a 2g n/t, no one will miss that under powered pos.

OP, please edit your first post to let people know that video is a waste of time. I want my 4 minutes back...

For anyone lucky enough to read this before they watch the video. They go around reving a 2gn/t that obviously isn't running right until it wont start and laugh like school girls about it.

 

[Ricardo18]

its a 2g n/t, no one will miss that under powered pos.

OP, please edit your first post to let people know that video is a waste of time. I want my 4 minutes back...

For anyone lucky enough to read this before they watch the video. They go around reving a 2gn/t that obviously isn't running right until it wont start and laugh like school girls about it.

Sparked discussion.

I was more concerned about the commentary and mindset of folks with regards to committing such acts of stupidity. It may have been "going", but that's not a reason to trash it. Also, I wonder why it was going, maybe abuse??

As for your comment on the "underpowered pos". I'm sure you know that the 4g63 came with the same output n/a.

If you wanna bring the "potential" argument to the table, here:

420a DSM-ZERO 661hp & 463tq at 30psi NEW WORLD RECORD!! - YouTube

That said, it's more of a challenge to build the 420a. The weak will give up and go cry for a 4g63. The 4g63 has more factory engineering fulfillment, however, the 420a leaves more work up to the enthusiast. Glass half empty/half full. Some people like a challenge, and building a 4g63 may just not be enough for them.

 

[derrickeclipse]

ha ha funny, also for the potential, 661hp has nothing on the over 1000hp the 4g63's can do. i see this 420a and 4g63 argument will go on forever, but in the end its always the 4g guys that come out on top. always has been and always will be.

 

[turboglenn]

Wow, what idiots..also was the most boring video of blowing an engine up i've ever seen, hell they didn't even need to drive it since they just kept neutral revving it till it blew, now if they were running it off the limiter in first gear through turns that would have been entertaining, but god, that's for the easily amused and mentally challenged

Also, if you're gonna purposely try and blow something up, be creative, i agree with either a HUGE nitrous shot or tossinga junk turbo on it and weldingthe wastegate shut, then beat the piss out of it off the limiter or something. (but i can't get down with wasting a perfectly good block for no reason at all) The video above shows how much potential a 420a can have, and i'm sure some one that is doing a similar build would have probably pulled the engine out for free just to get it as a back up or block to build for themselves

 

[dondmon96]

I did the same thing to my 'winter car' when I lived in West Virginia. It was a 85 Omni that had just spun a rod bearing. I was crazy pissed when I did it. That 2.2 held 7,000+ rpms a lot longer than I thought it would hold it. Engine finally stalled and seized up.

I'd own a n/t Eclipse. They are good cars, and they make plenty of go fast parts for them.

 

[CrackedDSM]

Sparked discussion.

I was more concerned about the commentary and mindset of folks with regards to committing such acts of stupidity. It may have been "going", but that's not a reason to trash it. Also, I wonder why it was going, maybe abuse??

As for your comment on the "underpowered pos". I'm sure you know that the 4g63 came with the same output n/a.

If you wanna bring the "potential" argument to the table, here:

420a DSM-ZERO 661hp & 463tq at 30psi NEW WORLD RECORD!! - YouTube

That said, it's more of a challenge to build the 420a. The weak will give up and go cry for a 4g63. The 4g63 has more factory engineering fulfillment, however, the 420a leaves more work up to the enthusiast. Glass half empty/half full. Some people like a challenge, and building a 4g63 may just not be enough for them.

You show one video of a 661hp 420a as a support for your "potential" argument? Do I really have to bring up John Shepard or the countless other people making right at or above 1000awhp(that's ALL WHEEL HORSEPOWER, not just to the front wheels). Get over it, the 420a sucks. For the time and money you put into it, you could spend way less than half, and waaaayy less than 3/4 the effort on a 4G63, and go much...much faster. And if building a 4G63 was so easy, where's your lists of wicked fast 4G63's you built and got bored of?

Oh. Yeah. That's right. You don't have that list.

Do us a favor and keep your 420lame arguments on 2gnt.

 

[RadDsm]

As for your comment on the "underpowered pos". I'm sure you know that the 4g63 came with the same output n/a.

Lol, it was never made to be a N/T motor.

420a is still is POS.

 

[Ricardo18]

You show one video of a 661hp 420a as a support for your "potential" argument? Do I really have to bring up John Shepard or the countless other people making right at or above 1000awhp(that's ALL WHEEL HORSEPOWER, not just to the front wheels). Get over it, the 420a sucks. For the time and money you put into it, you could spend way less than half, and waaaayy less than 3/4 the effort on a 4G63, and go much...much faster. And if building a 4G63 was so easy, where's your lists of wicked fast 4G63's you built and got bored of?

Oh. Yeah. That's right. You don't have that list.

Do us a favor and keep your 420lame arguments on 2gnt.

...so..umm 661hp is not a lot?? Let me know one reasonably affordable vehicle that is made with HALF this amount of power. 661 is WAY more than I'd ever care to have in a daily driver.

I couldn't care any less about all the 1000hp 4g motors you want to mention. There are plenty of motors that make much more than 1000 hp. By the way, awhp is a useless term you hear echoed on online forums. so now should I start saying fwhp because my car is fwd? Whp is the term you are looking or. The GST's do NOT have awd, yet come with a 4g motor, therefore, using "awhp" as a generalization for 4g motors is a farce.

"420a sucks"

For what? What makes it suck? It's more fuel efficient than the 4g63, so your point isn't holding up. I'll ASSUME, you mean it sucks for making a full fledged race car...yes, I agree. NOT everyone wants to own a full fledged raced car.

Obviously its MUCH easier to build a 4g63 than a 420a. It's the main reason why it's more popular with enthusiasts. You don't have to spend as much money on a 4g63 to make it powerful as you would a 420a. Yes, that's the truth. Just because something isn't built for a race motor, doesn't make it suck. That generalization shows lack of competence.

Building extremely fast cars isn't the goal of every enthusiast. I like fast cars, but I want something I can drive and have some fun, whenever I feel like it. I don't care to tow my car to a track and pay some cash just because I wanna go have some fun driving my car.

Lame 420a arguments? Really? I'm surprised the moderators on this site allow you to launch insults at someone that doesn't support your OPINION that the 420a sucks. Most dsm'ers know that with the same financial resources, it isn't as easy to build the 420a as the 4g63.

I did not intend to start an argument, and obviously some panties got tangled. I'll leave it here for you to figure some things out. I've read a number of your posts before and know the type of argument you intend to continue. Know who/what you are debating before going any further and make assumptions + making yourself look like a fool. Please don't let my "probationary member" status fool you.

Lol, it was never made to be a N/T motor.

420a is still is POS.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/242140-4g63-na-buildup.html

As an addendum, I'm specifically into fuel economy. I wont be (what I would consider to be) wasting my time doing something obviously proven on multiple levels. Plenty people have made fast cars even faster. Would you like a cookie for being able to follow the yellow brick road?

Making a car fast and efficient is something you don't really hear about. My idea of fast and efficient would be a car up to today's safety standards while being able to achieve high 13's/low 14's when pushed, and the mpgE of an HCH (Honda civic Hybrid). It's not currently impossible, just not practical. I go for longer term goals that takes years of research.

If tuning 4g63's make you smile, then go for it. These wheels turn in a different direction.