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[740 Turbo Brick]

Unbe-####ing-leaveable

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[phunny]

You gonna tell us what happened?

 

[EDM95]

looks like some one tried to steal his radio but broke it in half instead.

 

[Eclipsed]

that sucks man, i hate when people screw with cars. lowest thing you could do.

a few years back some guy broke into my spyder. slashed the roof open. nothing was taken and the door was unlocked. im guessing he used the door lock to unlock, which sets off the stock alarm.

funny thing is im pretty sure i know who did it. that same night a buddy of mine had his car broken into and vandalized. one thing we had in common, a roommate that was kicked out of the college for stealing from dorm rooms. i moved to another room because i couldnt handle his crap, my buddy then moved in with him thinking it wouldnt be bad. then things started going missing, so he went to the RA. they open his chest and find peoples stuff from the floor.

insurance only cut me a check for $800 for a new top, going rate for a new exterior top and interior top was 1700. :-/

 

[matthewdesigns]

F*ck!ng thieves. Sorry you have to deal with this crap.

Same thing happened to me earlier this year, except my window was broken out just for giggles I guess, as they didn't take anything. The bright side is that the windows are cheap, and not too huge a PITA to replace. There's actually a good writeup here on Tuners about it.

 

[740 Turbo Brick]

Yeah it was pretty shitty. I wake up and jump out of bed at 6:58 because I hear my alarm going off. I live with my GF and her brother, both of whose cars were broken into and had shit stolen out of them months prior. I run to the window and see nothing. Think maybe a cat jumped on it, but I dont feel right about it, so I get dressed and go out there. I walk around the whole yard, go to my car and see the window laying on the ground. Look in the car, my DVD player is ripped in half from them trying to grab it out. I guess they think everyone half asses their stereo install with a dash kit, instead of bolting it to the chassis and chaining it down. The face goes back on, and it still works, so really Im just down a window and peace of mind. I really cant explain the rage that hit me at that point. I actually yelled mother ####er at the top of my lungs at 7:10 in the morning. Cops came and all that happy horse shit, and I just put my car away in the garage to sleep until next year. She'll be on the operating table for most of the winter though.

 

[matthewdesigns]

Yep, mine lives in the garage now. I don't leave it out after dark, even if it's for a short amount of time. Good luck with the winter plans.

 

[95fwdtsi18psi]

My car got stolen, i'm just glad this shit didn't happen to me. Any luck on figuring out the theif?

 

[phunny]

I had someone take a piece of pipe and throw it threw my window for no reason at all. Best part is it was at Pep Boys for a new alternator during a trip. They said they'd store it inside overnight and didn't. I had video camera and all kinds of stuff in the car they didn't touch. And the next day right after it got fixed my wife shut my finger in its door, and it CLOSED all the way.....

On a side note, remember in robocop how the security system fried the thief. I want that installed. You touch, you die. GG

-charlie

 

[Evo_This]

Had the same bullshit happen to my car...twice
2am I'm up playing Xbox when I hear the warning alarm on my car..hmm..keep playing and hear it again..wtf?...so I get up and as I'm coming to the door my alarm goes off full blast. I run to the door now and what do I see? Some mf'er running away from my car! I grab my cell, call police, grab my 357 Mag and wait...police copter flies by, two unit pass by, no one ####ing stops wtf?! Now I'm losing it, and decide to take matters into my own hands (not for everyone) I go down and wait on a stairwell thats hidden from the street. 15 mins later what do I see, a brown POS come creeping up and parks on the oppsite side of the street from my car, one jumps out and runs over. I called the police again and go to the pos, driver so busy watching his friend he didnt see me coming. Tho its not a shotgun, ever hear a gun #### two inches from the side of your head? Me either but clearly it gets the point across, got the driver out and down on the ground and cuffed (I have some for...uh security). Other guy didnt see this as I had a sunshade in the car and the first dude didnt put up much of a struggle. Run up on his ass as he's trying his best to yank out my damn unit through what used to be my passenger side window, put the Mag in his rubs and held him there til police arrived. They got them both, but still gave me the "leave it to us next time" speech..whatever. Buster window, and a motorized radio that not longer works..assholes
Second time: after what happened I started parking my car right under my window (wish I had a sniper rifle). Too bad that shit didnt work, one night again playing xbox about 3am I hear a fart cannon came screaming down my street but seems to slow down as it gets near my car. Being the paronoid guy I am, I go look out the window, what do I see? Some mf'ers in a riced up (performancely challanged?) Civic with a flashlight trying to look in my car (5% tint plus sunshade). Same deal, call police, grab mag n cuffs, something tells me to take me keys, and run downstairs. By the time I hit the gate my alarm is yelling, they see me when I round the corner, hop in the civic and tear out. I get to my car, driver window smashed but still in one place, I hop in and follow. Amazing how well/fast you can drive when pissed, took me a black to catch up (bet they didn't think it moves as well as it looks), call the police while following them, a unit finally shows up ahead of us n pulls them over. Again with the "let us handle it speech"...Ugh

 

[lacroixdp]

Evo_This - you are either lying through your teeth, or you have absolutely no business owning a firearm. They should have hauled your ass to jail for unlawful detainment and unlawful display of a firearm. It's people like you that give firearm owners like me a bad name.

Take the police's advice - let them handle it. There's no room for cowboys out there taking the law into their own hands unless they are threatening your life. I hardly call breaking into a vehicle serious enough offense to draw a firearm on someone, to say nothing of handcuffing them when you are not a LEO.

Christs dude, just turn it into insurance. It's a freaking car.

 

[Gooberlog]

Sorry to hear about the break in. That's actually one main reason i wanted a laser this time. Most people don't even know what the hell it is, other than a piece of junk.

 

[Trav83]

I'm sorry to hear about your guy's losses, some people are low life piece's of sh** that have no guilt or remorse for their actions. I know the feeling of paranoia too, I work 3rd shift at a small retail store that's in a not so great neighborhood so I always park my car close to the store and where I can see it from the windows... and with the alarm set of course.

 

[phunny]

Evo_This - you are either lying through your teeth, or you have absolutely no business owning a firearm. They should have hauled your ass to jail for unlawful detainment and unlawful display of a firearm. It's people like you that give firearm owners like me a bad name.

Take the police's advice - let them handle it. There's no room for cowboys out there taking the law into their own hands unless they are threatening your life. I hardly call breaking into a vehicle serious enough offense to draw a firearm on someone, to say nothing of handcuffing them when you are not a LEO.

Christs dude, just turn it into insurance. It's a freaking car.

It's our right by law to protect ourselves. You can sit an hide if you want. The rest of us will take this country back. And it is by no means illegal to make a citizens arrest.

-charlie

 

[lacroixdp]

It's our right by law to protect ourselves. You can sit an hide if you want. The rest of us will take this country back. And it is by no means illegal to make a citizens arrest.

-charlie

I agree - it is our right to protect ourselves. In fact, I have a CCW lifetime permit, so I do not 'sit and hide'. Do not mistake my constraint for feebleness, but rather a firm understanding of what a responsible firearm carrier should practice. However, his life was never in danger. In fact, your statement that a citizens arrest is legal is only partially correct. In Texas (where he is from), you may only perform a citizen's arrest if you witness a felony being performed. This still does not protect you from civil issues - you will get sued for unlawful detainment and you will lose. Clearly, breaking into a car is not a felony. Pointing a firearm at someone sure as hell is though. I agree, action should be taken - pulling a gun on someone for breaking into a car is unlawful and completely unnecessary. Now if those same people had threatened him when he confronted him, then yes he would be within his rights to defend himself. However, why would you put yourself into such a situation? You should avoid conflict whenever possible... it is the first rule a responsible firearm owner should understand. There are laws in place in various states to protect you in situations where you shouldn't have to run (in your house, on your property), such as the Castle Doctrine law. In public however, if you dive right in instead of attempting to avoid the situation, then you are not doing your due diligence to avoid conflict.

I can tell you one thing though... if his story were true, he would have gone to jail for what he did. It is clearly a made up tale.

 

[phunny]

I agree - it is our right to protect ourselves. In fact, I have a CCW lifetime permit, so I do not 'sit and hide'. Do not mistake my constraint for feebleness, but rather a firm understanding of what a responsible firearm carrier should practice. However, his life was never in danger. In fact, your statement that a citizens arrest is legal is only partially correct. In Texas (where he is from), you may only perform a citizen's arrest if you witness a felony being performed. This still does not protect you from civil issues - you will get sued for unlawful detainment and you will lose. Clearly, breaking into a car is not a felony. Pointing a firearm at someone sure as hell is though. I agree, action should be taken - pulling a gun on someone for breaking into a car is unlawful and completely unnecessary. Now if those same people had threatened him when he confronted him, then yes he would be within his rights to defend himself. However, why would you put yourself into such a situation? You should avoid conflict whenever possible... it is the first rule a responsible firearm owner should understand. There are laws in place in various states to protect you in situations where you shouldn't have to run (in your house, on your property), such as the Castle Doctrine law. In public however, if you dive right in instead of attempting to avoid the situation, then you are not doing your due diligence to avoid conflict.

I can tell you one thing though... if his story were true, he would have gone to jail for what he did. It is clearly a made up tale.

Talked to a buddy of mine who is a trooper in Florida. You can stop a crime in progress. There are no stipulations such as only if a felony can you intervene. And as he said, if you do not stop it when it's small things it WILL lead to more dangerous crimes. You don't start out by robbing banks. Now weather his story is legit or not, I'm not sure and it's not my business to judge. I am also a permitted gun owner and have been around the world and handled my business. And waiting for the cops isn't always the best answer. If you don't want the confrontation I completely understand and there is nothing wrong with that. But do not push those views on those of us that want to make right all of the wrongs that go on anymore.

-charlie

 

[lacroixdp]

Talked to a buddy of mine who is a trooper in Florida. You can stop a crime in progress. There are no stipulations such as only if a felony can you intervene.

As I stated in my reply above, he is from Texas, which does stipulate that it has to be a felony for a citizen's arrest.

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
Art. 14.01. [212] [259] [247] OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW.
(a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant,
arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence
or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as
an offense against the public peace.

as he said, if you do not stop it when it's small things it WILL lead to more dangerous crimes.

This is very debatable. If you car is out alone, it will just be a break-in. By introducing your presence into the situation, you are raising the stakes quite a bit.

I am also a permitted gun owner and have been around the world and handled my business. And waiting for the cops isn't always the best answer.

I've been around the world too and can attest that waiting for LEO's isn't always possible. However in a break-in situation where there would be absolutely no risk of life or limb, doesn't it make sense to let insurance deal with the damage rather than risk escalating the situation with a confrontation from you?

If you don't want the confrontation I completely understand and there is nothing wrong with that. But do not push those views on those of us that want to make right all of the wrongs that go on anymore.

In a situation where myself or my family is not in danger, you'd better damn well believe I'm not going to introduce an element into the situation, in this case being myself with a firearm, that could result in me possibly injuring a perpetrator, or even ending his life. Life is too valuable to throw it away over a radio, period. If you cannot agree with that, then there's nothing else for me to say in reference to this.

If you want to 'right all of the wrongs', then I suggest you do it legally by becoming a LEO. You may have a license to carry a firearm, but you sure as hell don't have a license to enforce vigilante justice, to say nothing of the extremes the guy above went to. He clearly stepped over the line of protecting his property and committed a criminal act himself, which in his case was unlawful detainment and unlawful display of a firearm.

You should never touch that firearm that you carry unless you or a loved one, or an innocent bystander is in immediate danger with absolutely no means of retreat. A car radio is absolutely no excuse to draw a gun and threaten someone's life with it, unless they are in a closed garage on your property. This is one of the most rudimentary rules I teach in firearm training - I won't pass anyone in my classes if they can't understand that a firearm is an absolute last resort.

 

[740 Turbo Brick]

EVO this, I feel ya dude. I play PS3 all night, and theres been a few times Ive had to run to the window (upstairs window, overlooks driveway) to check something out. Ive had my alarm set off by cats before, and I live in a really bad hood so Im always watching the hood rats and making sure they dont look too closely at my car.

 

[Evo_This]

Evo_This - you are either lying through your teeth, or you have absolutely no business owning a firearm. They should have hauled your ass to jail for unlawful detainment and unlawful display of a firearm. It's people like you that give firearm owners like me a bad name.

Take the police's advice - let them handle it. There's no room for cowboys out there taking the law into their own hands unless they are threatening your life. I hardly call breaking into a vehicle serious enough offense to draw a firearm on someone, to say nothing of handcuffing them when you are not a LEO.

Christs dude, just turn it into insurance. It's a freaking car.

Wow...alright I'll start with your first post...while you may not agree with the actions that I took it gives you no right to sit here and say I'm lying. This happened on my property, in my view. Did I take a risk? Yes. Could things have gone much wrost? Yes. If I could do it again I wouldn't have changed a step. No I wasn't being a cowboy as I had done what was expected of me (calling the police) but was failed by them at the time..twice. So what should I have done? Sat in my house, at my window or door and asked nicely for them to leave? True it wasnt an ideal spot to be in for any of us but I work too ####ing hard to have someone just take something from me! If I was sleep and woke up the next day to it..fine..no I wouldnt go running up n down the block gun waving like an ass I wouldve took it but to SEE someone steal from you? Teacher or not, you can't tell me you'd do nothing but watch hoping pd gets there while calling your insurance on the other line, maybe you're lying to yourself. Also I wasn't arrested or charged for any wrong doing. In retrospect, yes risking injury for a radio is silly but at the time it wasn't just a radio and it's not just a car. It's like watching your child get the shit beat out of him by adults and doing nothing about it. I'm not some gun toting yahoo, I reacted in the moment and did what I felt was best at the time. If I offended you or any other fellow CHL carriers with my story then I'm sorry, just wanted to share in someones pain. So to you sir and Phunny, thanks for hearing me out.

 

[whitetsi95]

Well this thread got way off topic. I understand both sides of the track. From having my car broken in to and being a CCW. Now brandishing a weapon, with out you or someone else being in harms way would be against the law, becuase those little sh*ts could say that you threatend them. But whos to say you cant go from concealed to open carry? Not taking anyones side here. Just everyone needs to think about things before they do actions. Am I saying I would not do the same thing no. Because who knows what I would be thinking. I would just hate to see either my self or someone else get arrested and charged for doing something along the lines of EVO this and the guy who breaks in to my car walk.
But anyways I will post my story.
I went out on a spur of the moment lets go to the bar type thing. I ended up leaving my car at the bar(which had surv. cams) My car got broken in to. They stole a pistol(like I said spur of the moment thing, and it was in the glove box), and CD's. I got to watch it all on tape. He went through my car for 36mins. So I feel the your pain and hate low life thugs.

 

[lacroixdp]

Evo_This, you can bet I wouldn't sit by and watch my car get broke into. However, I would respond with an appropriate amount of force. Most of the time, just yelling at them would stop them dead in their tracks and send them on their merry way. However, if at that point they decided to approach me in a threatening fashion, than I would brandish my firearm in self defense. My problem with what you said is it sounds like you instantly jumped to pulling your firearm on someone. I just can't agree with that, respectfully.

 

[740 Turbo Brick]

I will say that I can. Most of the time, anyone who would go to willful distruction of my property to steal something that belongs to me (in my driveway even), isnt going to be nice enough to say, "oh hey, you got me, Ill depart your property". They arent just going to get a "You darn kids" from me. Im going to make sure that they either end up with bodily harm, or run away slipping on the poo dripping down their legs, thinking "oh shit, oh shit, oh #### shit shit!" , and thinking about how they got to this point in their life.


But then again, I am a very, VERY vengeful person. If I catch him, there will be baseball bats to knees.

 

[phunny]

lacroixdp did you read the law you quoted?

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
Art. 14.01. [212] [259] [247] OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW.
(a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant,
arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence
or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as
an offense against the public peace.

You proved my point

 

[Evo_This]

Evo_This, you can bet I wouldn't sit by and watch my car get broke into. However, I would respond with an appropriate amount of force. Most of the time, just yelling at them would stop them dead in their tracks and send them on their merry way. However, if at that point they decided to approach me in a threatening fashion, than I would brandish my firearm in self defense. My problem with what you said is it sounds like you instantly jumped to pulling your firearm on someone. I just can't agree with that, respectfully.

Okay and I can respect your stand on the issue, this happened years ago and I was a much different person than compared to now. I agree that it wasn't the smartest thing to do and that I actted on impulse but I felt it right at the time. Alarm didn't stop them, police units and copter fly by didn't stop them, I felt I was out of options but to do something myself but like I said in my post it's not for everyone.

 

[Trav83]

Hey what do ya know, this thread turned into arguing Well I've lost interest